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on Saturday December 05 2009, @12:30AM
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Strange (Score:0)
Do not know quite what to think? Strange days indeed~
Las Vegas Tonight (Score:1, Interesting)
certain
fans...
some of which, come here
YOU CAN BE SURE OF THIS.
Re:Las Vegas Tonight (Score:2, Interesting)
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He was dissapointed that I was not there (Score:0)
Well you never know maybe he was just tired.
Strange But True (Score:0)
whats the problem? (Score:1, Funny)
He had a date with a hooker.
Moz is furious about the X factor (Score:0)
http://ragefactor.co.uk/#
any excuse (Score:0)
Morrissey will use any excuse to stop the gig.
Le petit prince.
Sorry, twas I (Score:0, Funny)
I shalln't do it again.
Info (Score:1)
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Ricky Ricardo was pissed! (Score:1)
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Moz Vegas! (Score:5, Informative)
After a wrong turn coming back from sightseeing where water makes power lighting Vegas to Los Angeles (Hoover Dam), I was unfortunately delayed and missed Doll & the Kicks tonight, but I heard that the crowd were really great and the best they've had yet. The band was very happy for that. The singer. Hannah (aka "Doll"), wore the bustier with stars and leopard-print knickers, and it was actually really fitting for Vegas and the Hard Rock. I'm kicking myself for that wrong turn!
So "The Joint" inside the Hard Rock casino was pretty impressive: quite large (maybe 8 or 10,000 capacity?), multi-tiered balcony, multi-tiered floor with railings, slanted at a grate so people could see. Whereas the stage at the Oakland Paramount was shallow (Doll and the Kicks even had to put their drummer all the way stage left that night), the Hard Rock stage was hugely deep. To say the stage area could have housed the Roseland is only a slight exaggeration. We could have had our own little show just in there! Anyway, it was basically a very nice venue built perfectly for GA/standing rock concerts.
The vibe before and in the beginning of the show was great. Very warm and positive. Guys and girls were singing along together with Moz (the guys more loudly
Then some words between a couple guys were exchanged, people were moving away, then I got enthralled in the perimeter of a brawl! Jeezus! I got away with some bruised bones and thankfully okay enough to type this review. I have to say it changed the mood of the entire night after that. Everyone in my section was a little traumatized by it. I really wish it would have stayed as 'we all love Moz, let's sing along together because we love him.' I mean, he's made this special leg of the tour for all of us on the West Coast. Let's show our appreciation and just stay cool with each other, because it's not about us. It's about him.
So Moz opened the show with "Welcome to Moz Vegas!"
As Anonymous' have said, the set was cut short a bit. About 16 songs were performed. Not sure about the order: The Loop, __?___, This Charming Man, Paris, Death at One's Elbow, Black Cloud, Ask, Ganglord (M asked the crowd if they liked the song), Let Me Kiss You (almost looked like he wasn't going to take off his shirt, but he did a few lines after "but then you opened your eyes"), One Day Goodbye Will be Farewell (yes, so let's not fight amongst ourselves), Cemetry Gates ("stonely read the graves" is possibly here to stay, "Wilde is on mine" returns), Teenage Dad on is Estate, If You Don't Like Me Don't Look at Me (miscommunication for the intro it seemed and Moz had a bit of background music with his banter. He and the band handled it very well in the moment and Moz jumped into the song after he bantered, then Jesse and Solomon joined in on cue with the electric guitar and bass. It's possible Moz wanted to start the song over (it kind of seemed like it), but once into it there was no going back --always keep going after any mistakes, as they say, as sometimes the audience doesn't even know what happened wasn't planned. Anyhow, this is the beauty of a live show as opposed to a taped and edited television program that we can just sit at home and watch from our couches), Daddy's Voice, Why Don't You Find Out (?), How Soon is Now.
Wardrobe: Moz in a black suit with white collared shirt (I think no tie), the boyz in white collared, short-sleeved shirts, black bowtie (?), and black pants.
Sorry I forget how he intro'd the band, but he followed it with, "And I'm not sure who I am" or something like that. Everyone cheered.
That's all I got for now.
A belated Cheers to Charlie.
And Cheers all, thanks for reading.
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swords tour (Score:0)
birmingham was flat, goes down at swindon next night he wasn't well understandable
storms off in liverpool
germany with the fan
and by the sounds of it tonight
he should take 2 maybe 3 years off
change some of your personnel no names need mentioning
otherwise stop wasting our money with shite setlists!
Has his light really gone out? (Score:3, Interesting)
Strange mix of people gathered 'round before the gig--a rodeo awards show was being held right next door to the venue, so in addition to the usual Hard Rock Hotel douchebag/hooker crowd there were actual cowboys in hats, boots and mullets milling about amongst us Moz fans inside the casino.
Banter:
“If there is ever a t-shirt printed to sum up my life, it will read, ‘If you don’t like me, don’t look at me’”
“Is there anyone out there who is as old or older than me?”
He intro-ed the band by saying, “’Trying harder’ are Boz, Solomon, Matt, (etc.)…and I…I have no identity.”
“Do you know the song ‘Ganglord’? Do you like it? Well, we’re not gonna play it…” (Right before launching into it, naturally).
Finished the vocal portion of HSIN and bounded right off stage without a word…band played the outro and Matt banged a gong (got it on?) for a bit.
Cue the houselights. Fin.
Tonight, and in reading about this tour, has reminded me of the Maladjusted period of touring--.nightly incidents, an iffy-Morrissey, and a feeling that this may be it. That was 12 years ago. Of course, the past 12 years have brought us a ton of physical product and touring (for better and sometimes worse). From this point, does Morrissey have 12 years left on stage? Does he have 12 years left on (gasp) Earth? Just something I was thinking as the houselights came so quickly on…
Brats- The 'Kill Uncle' shows were only 45 min! (Score:1, Informative)
Yee Haw from LV (Score:1)
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Stop whining. (Score:2, Insightful)
People are used to having 22 or 23 songs for each show. If you're planning on seeing any shows on the Swords Tour, pay attention to this: YOU WILL GET 19 to 21 SONGS.
The set list yesterday had 21 songs. He skipped Crashing Bores and I'm OK By Myself. No problem with the audience. No problem with the venue. The man decided to skip those.
How Soon Is Now was supposed to be the encore. They just didn't leave the stage. That's all.
Morrissey has done MANY shows in the past that lasted less than 1 hour.
And just to show how people can be such crybabies, look at the comments for the Bowery Ballroom show in NYC and then read these comments for Vegas last night.
Bowery: awesome.
Vegas: too short / what's the problem? / morrissey is done / morrissey is diva.
Then count the amount of songs for each set list.
Bowery Ballroom: 19 songs.
Vegas: 19 songs.
Obviously, idiocy is abundant anywhere.
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It was great.. (Score:1)
Oh yeah! and seriously? You.. the one who was fighting over Moz's shirt..you licked it? He just put it in his crotch and you licked it? I love Morrissey but not that much!
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Repulsed by unruly vomiting fans? (Score:2, Interesting)
Afterward I spoke with a reliable source working the gig who told me Morrissey did not return for an encore because he was so repulsed by the unruly people in the pit who apparently in addition to being violent were vomiting up at the front. I can see how that might discourage him from feeling gung ho on a big goodbye.
Seriously people, get it together. If you want to go to see Morrissey and drink yourself into oblivion at least have the common sense and courtesy to do it in the back near the bathroom.
Great show but looking forward to LA!
Everyone please behave
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Leg #2 of the Desert Shows (Score:2, Informative)
Living in CA this was my first chance to see MOZ in about 1 1/2yrs (Paladium 10 night stay), 35 MOZ shows in all for me. I was so hoping for "proper" west coast dates that were not scheduled prior to MOZ's leg of the YOR tour and the swords tour delivered, so excited.
We sat in the VIP area stage left looking down on the stage and about 40% back into the pit. Interseting vantage point, great to just totally get into the show in my own way. Met a great couple from England here on holiday and totally stoked to see MOZ perform, good couple/people.
Some Obesrvations on Moz:
Looked healthy, strong
Voice sounded great
Was about 70% full,maybe a little less
PIT area was huge
Know signs of iritation (Moz) from my vantage point
Saw him make the "cut the throat" gesture to Boz, who seemed perplexed, almost like your kidding, we are in Vegas
Everyone around me was schocked when the house lights came on.
I was also, but this was not unexpected.
So we move onto Indio, feeling better, hoping for a solid show, interesed to hear if and what he has to say about bailing on the encore.
We love you and your music Morrissey, it's a pleasure to see him perform, the edginess seems to fit his persona, you never know what your going to get night in and night out.
Travel Safe everyone, let's have some fun tonight!
BeeWee~
What's do? (Score:0)
Great show! (Score:0)
Also, I met a guy named Carlos in line, and if you're reading this: dude I think I spaced out and gave you my old cell phone number (I switched phones a week ago)! I feel like a douche, I'm not ignoring you if you called me.
reply to this and I'll give you my new one
-Shaylee
Vague Ass setlist (Score:2, Interesting)
Excellent show until the end where Moz walked off and made us go WTF?!‚hthought I might have to eat my words about the tired setlist and him lacking energy, but by the end he was looking as worn out as those who went through queueing madness. Looked so fit and handsome at the beginning. Lurved the white shirt and fitted trousers. Voice good but still cracking over a note or two. Others noted that he drank from the metallic drink containers several times, hot tea with slippery elm perhaps???
Makes us worried about Indio today, so some of us bought merch in Vegas in case it's the last show. Damnit, the M chav jacket was only $60 in Vague Ass, and I bought it for $75 in Oaktown. Sweaty Pie pink shirt seemed to go up in price.‚hthought it was only $35 like the rest of the shirts in the 510, but in Vague Ass it was $40!
I don't want anyone to get in trubble, so I'm not posting the photo of the setlist, but here it is in text:
Vegas setlist as printed, not as played
1/ LOOP
2/ PARIS
3/ CHARMAN
4/ LET ME KISS YOU
5/ IF YOU DON'T LIKE
6/ CLOUD
7/ TEENDAD
8/ CEMETERY
9/ WHY DON'T YOU?
10/ ONE DAY GOOD
11/ ELBOW
12/ ASK
13/ CAROL
14/ IS IT REALLY?
15/ BORES
16/ GANGLORD
17/ Daddys V
18/ I'M OK
enc: HSIN
Moz dropped I'M OK (yay!) and Bores (boo). HSIN was meant to be the encore after all.
I suppose it's the only time this year I was grateful he played HSIN for the umpteenth time. Still, it makes the casual crowd go wild. They loved hearing so many Smiffs hits. Truthfully, so did I.
Moz did not leave stage and come back for encore, went straight into HSIN after Daddy's Voice. Suddenly lights came on with Frank Sinatra singing for us to go fuck ourselves (My Way). Moz played for just one hour.
House security were the rudest tossers ever. Totally drunk on power and more brainless than Paris Hilton. I'll excuse bumbling ignorance and incompetence, but their rudeness and unwarranted violence to people who were doing nothing wrong was outrageous. We pay their wages after all. So my party had decided not to spend any more of our money at that awful hotel where the slime and grime gel. Judging from what others told me after the show, many patrons felt this way. Way to go, Hard Rock management!
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Great show! (Score:1)
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the intensity is falling (Score:0)
He is getting older and his fans are getting older and - while there are still many obsessives - a few of the fans are casual fans these days.
It dilutes the atmosphere a little.
I think he's fed up with it and wants the intensity to return to the levels of the world of morrissey tour.
To every thing a season.
broken
why drink too much (Score:2, Insightful)
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To many stalkers! (Score:0)
Morrissey Makes Vegas Livable; If Only for a Night (Score:2, Interesting)
Morrissey put on an excellent show. Although he was clearly detached from the audience a bit (little banter, few handshakes, and he only commented on one of the many gifts he received), he still delivered all of the seventeen songs we were treated to last night. I loved opening with "The Loop" (who doens't love seening Moz bang on a tambourine), but am also glad "This Charming Man" was not cut. I know the new version takes a lot of criticism, but it fits well with the "Years of Refusal" material, and could have easily been a track on the album. I think that's the point of the new version, as opposed to the silly idea that Moz's band can't handle the song. They are professional musicians and handle every other song with ease. The two b-sides from 2004 were my personal favorites (Daddy's Voice and Teenage Dad). Those songs take me back to that happy time when I was still discovering and exploring Moz's back catalogue, coupled with the excitement surrounding a new release, as well as the incredible experience and effect of live performances. Last night was another blessing to add to the list of those incredible experiences.
The only complaints that can be levied about the show relates to the security and the crowd. The venue's security was absolutely clueless as to how to deal with an early queu. The only method was to continually disperse the crowd as it gathered until the official queu was allowed at 5:30 p.m. This posed a great problem for those that arrived early (some were more than 24 hours early; I arrived at 11:30 p.m. the day before to be something like 20th in line o.O) and it was complete chaos when the official line was formed. There should have been a designated area outside for the queu to form, but alas, casinos are for taking money, not making sense.
It's a shame that it's so "cool" to like Moz out west (at least, that's the impression I got from the crowd). It seemed a number of people were much more interested in getting their photo (or photos!) on that stupid Verizon screen before the show than the actual concert. It was so odd that on one hand the fight for the front of the queu was definitely the most chaotic I've ever expereinced, but on the other hand the energy in the actual show was the lowest. The only logical conclusion I can make is that a lot of the fans were more concerned with bragging that they were up front at a Moz show than actually being up front at a Moz show. This isn't to say there aren't awesome fans out West, just that Moz seems to attract many more "cool" people than other places.
It was great seeing some old friends last night. Lulu, the twins, and Oscar, I was very glad to see you all and am sorry that I was such a d-bag. I was very, very tired and couldn't muster up the strength to be personible at all. Please don't think I'm a jerk, I was just so tired and wish I would have been talkative now that I've had sleep.
All in all, last night's show was great. Moz made the ordeal of Las Vegas entirely worth it. We are blessed that he pushed himself through 17 songs we were treated to, as opposed to cancelling.
Thank you Morrissey, for everything.
With undying love and admiration,
Lucas
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vids (Score:1)
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