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Los Angeles, CA - Gibson Amphitheatre (Dec. 10, 2009) post-show
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America is not the world (Score:0)
Setlist & Verbal Interactions (Score:4, Informative)
Charm Man
"Welcome to home!"
Black cloud
"Thank you"
Carol
Stage invader #1
(she didn't reach Moz)
HSIN
Ganglord
"Thank you enourmously."
Paris
"I think I can behave myself... Let quite myself by saying this."
Really Strange
"No no no that's ok"
One Day Tomorrow...
"The reason I'm here is for this. Gracias... (takes gifts from audience) Can you bare anymore"
Elbow
"You're too kind"
Teen Dad
"If you manage to be 20,000 leagues under the sea or you're part of a very private club, you know we've released a record called Swords. And from
It comes this song"
Poor Education
"I think it's very well to have an open mind but if you drive up & down Sunset you realize the world is full of crashing bores"
Bores (howl at the end of bores)
"Doing are best to radiate love, yes I've heard you" into of band "my name is George Lopez"
Find Out For Yourself
Moz-"would you like to speak help! Help!"
Audience-"Sammy the 3yr old on my shoulders in San Diego says hello"
Audience-"We love u Morrissey thank you for everything"
Audience-"I want you I need you I love you Morrissey" Moz- "It will pass"
Cemetry Gates
Loop
Ask
Daddy's Voice
Ok By Myself
(Bow, band wears Dolls & The Kicks tees)
"You win some, you lose some but thank you for your love."
Gangbanger/ Swing On A Star
robertboyracer
Simply excellent (Score:1)
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I think this could be Morrissey's last concert :( (Score:0)
I just came back from the show in Gibson.
Don't get me wrong. I love the man. Have loved him for 25 years. I flew to California from very far away and spent lots of money to see these shows. So I am not the "why do you make the effort to post on these forums just to slag Morrissey" type. But I am afraid this could be the last show.
I have tickets for Ventura tomorrow and I am already preparing myself mentally for a cancellation.
Morrissey was either ill (again) or intoxicated (???) . His singing was off, there was lots of slurring, or skipping lyrics altogether, and he seemed out of focus and - to be honest - going through the motions. I am sure other in the audience who've seen him felt like me, uncomfortable and concerned, when he did these things.
I've seen him enough time to notice we wasn't 'into it'; in fact, I was thinking that in his head he was thinking "I can do whatever I want and they will still cheer".
He's not 25 anymore, I don't expect him to be as energetic as he was in the 90's, but still it was a little sad to see him like this.
Again, I really love him. And I hope this is all a pile of BS and tomorrow's show in Ventura will take place and that it'll be dynamite. But I think that's not going to be the case.
A.
Very bad night (Score:1)
From the third song onwards, I thought Morrissey might leave the stage at any time. He looked extremely ticked off with the problems of his throat. It was a tense evening and the worst live gig I've seen him do (of the ones he actually completed) all year. But Morrissey bravely soldiered on despite having a terrible time of it. Morrissey, we beseech you, please don't tour anymore until you've had a good, long sufficient time to recover!!! It's not worth it.
I predict a 90% chance of cancellation for Ventura. I would even drive up to San Francisco right now tonight to catch a weekend seminar I was scheduled to attend if it weren't for the Ventura show. But it is raining terribly and unsafe to drive at this time. I'm making plans to go to that seminar now instead of Ventura.
Tonight was probably last chance to get merch. The uninspired Sweaty Pie shirt went up to $50 from the original $35. WTF is so special about that shirt?!
Yeah, and as for the rain...when I thought the night couldn't get any worse, it was pissing down rain when the unhappy show was finally over. At least it didn't rain when we were outside before the show...and now I'll get a refund on the Ventura tix instead of having to take a loss on the extra one. And the final silver lining of the black cloud is that Morrissey finished the complete setlist without skipping any songs or walking off in a defeated, angry huff no matter how tempting.
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Awful (Score:0)
Bored-issey? (Score:2, Informative)
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He was great.... (Score:2, Insightful)
I realize these are Morrissey fans on morrissey-solo doing the commentary so a generous grain or two or salt must be taken into account but...
You all are a dramatic lot.
He was great, I've seen him before and have a swath of his shirt he tossed that I fought through the encore for to prove it, but my girlfriend hadn't, and she loved the show and thought he was fantastic.
I was expecting a complete trainwreck after reading the reviews of previous shows, and happily I was very joyfully surprised.
I think the groupthink that you all subject yourself too has much more influence on your perspective than you realize.
It was a fun Moz show. Good times
I can't help the way I feel–– (Score:2, Informative)
Also, during "Cemetry Gates," he sang: "Keats and Yeats are on your side and you WIN!"
True, it seems he isn't feeling well, but––he gave a great performance. Thank you Morrissey.
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i'm speechless (no pun intended) (Score:1)
i would like to say that, again, i was at the seattle and portland shows and this el lay crowd was BY FAR the nicest, most loving mozcrowd ever. it was mostly latino (i'm armenian, i wish i was mexican, much like moz). they are so beautiful and kind and i absolutely see why morrissey loves them.
also, we went to the after party at the rumba room and it was AMAZING!!!! i literally had the time of my life dancing to morrissey and the smiths. i made some new friends there, and every single person in there was happy and smiling and no one was judging anyone (cant be said for the nw mozfans).
it breaks my heart to think that ventura may be canceled, but lets hope the show goes off without a problem.
ps- met doll and the kicks. hannah was, well,a doll. but the guys were fecking jerks. they were watching moz right next to us and they were hanging out with the kid that played mclovin. how on earth did mclovin become friends with doll and the kicks??? and who would have guessed that the shrimpboat who played mclovin would be the worlds BIGGEST HIPSTER. he kinda grossed us out. bleh.
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Re:i'm speechless (no pun intended) (Score:2, Funny)
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Gibson (Score:2, Interesting)
my driver's license, and I'm now 39 years old, I thought the man looked and sounded great. His mood is often the best indicator, and he seemed in good spirits. He never likes the sound mix on stage, and frequently skips lyrics. Especially high notes, but it's our job to fill those in, as we don't have to do it every night. Just my opinion -- a pretty good show, T. Lennon
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Moz in LA (Score:1, Interesting)
Let's look on the bright side, maybe he is saving his voice for tomorrow's Ventura show. Cross your fingers, stretch out and wait!
maybe not quite as bad as some others have said (Score:1, Interesting)
(I have see him 45 times)
Ventura is def. an unknown right now. I am worried but something tells me Moz will pull through and tough it out, if only for the payday. For god's sake - get up there one last time and then sit 2010 out! Wish I had that luxary.
VIVA MOZ!
Top Show (Score:0)
There will always be something to complain about, there is never any shortage of that. But as far as Morrissey goes, tonight for the 9th time in my life I saw him get on stage and own it. He may be ill, but even ill he still runs laps around any artist today.
I love everything Morrissey has grown up to be, as a singer, performer and song writer.
Thanks for a great night as always and see ya soon Mozzer!
Setlist at universal from 2004 (Score:0)
I really hope he is NEVER curious enough... (Score:1)
Some people on here (mostly anonymous) are feeding off any negative comments and practically nailing his coffin lid shut.
(User #23266 Info)
Morrissey be young Again Before It's to Late!!!!! (Score:0)
If You Did Not Know How Old You Were, How Old Would Youe Be!?! Live Morrissey! Rest And Be Young in your Heart And Spirit!
It's as clear as the invisible man. (Score:0)
Most Morrissey fans - drama queens.
Sound? (Score:0)
Thanks to the lads who tried to help me up! When I grabbed Morrissey's hand I accidentally slid his bandaid off...and I didn't know what to do so I handed it back to him...hahaha. Embarrassed. =P
-Melanie.
HSIN Youtube video (Score:1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvx2FKQJE2U
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Crashing Bores (Score:1)
It really is not THAT bad!
Misses quite a few lyrics near the start but honestly..'dreadful'? I don't think so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67-8OBJhqpk
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Morrissey at the Gibson (Score:1)
"Ask" and "The Loop" seemed to get the most cheers, at least from the cheap seats where I was at. As has been mentioned, Moz did introduce himself as "George Lopez" halfway through the show which got a huge laugh from the crowd.
Only one shirt change, took his shirt off right after "First of the Gang."
Doll and the Kicks was a great opening band; my friend bought their album. A far cry from Kristeen Young. (shudder)
The walk back to my car was soggy, the rain was miserable but I was still giddy from Morrissey. I guess that's a good indicator that he hasn't lost the charisma, at least not completely.
Until the next one....
(User #21922 Info)
Left feeling Meh (Score:0)
Wasn't good,wasn't bad. Just okay at best. During The Loop and WDYFOFY he seemed the most happy and had great energy. Okay By Myself was terrible live and Ganglord was VERY dull.
Poor Education and Teenage Dad actually sounded great live.
To quote a friend of mine, "I feel like we are the only ones pulling the weight in this relationship"
I know it will never be 91 San Diego, or Ventura 2000, but I have stilled enjoyed hm through the years. After this, I don't know if I will travel hundreds of miles anymore to see him.
Gibson 12/10 (Score:0)
Thank you Moz, I hope to see you again, soon!
Morrissey is still El Rey!! (Score:1)
(User #23293 Info)
Show start and end time? (Score:0)
Thank you!!
ignorance is not bliss, sadly... (Score:2, Interesting)
The simple matter of it is this: Morrissey refuses to wear in-ear monitors. He prefers the more visceral, live, and just plain loud sound of the on-stage monitors. The monitors are the speakers on the stage facing the band. These speakers are adjusted in certain capacities and to certain levels depending on who is standing near them. For example, the monitor in front of Jesse presumably has a lot of Jesse's guitar in it, meaning that's the loudest thing he hears, and then below his guitar a certain mix of levels depending upon his personal preferences. Some drummers like a lot of bass in their monitors to sync up the rhythm section, some guitarists like a lot of the other guitarist, some players like more or less vocal, etc. etc.
The point is that this system is not perfect and the mix can sometimes get muddled or wonky. I won't get into the acoustic reasons. Suffice it to say, all venues are different: some are boomy, some are flat, some are dry. In-ear monitors usually are easier to regulate and control, because of the lack of acoustic funkiness and interference.
Morrissey habitually hates the mix on stage; when he can't hear properly he can't locate his center of pitch. Many boots capture him painfully out of tune for whole verses. He's not losing his voice, he's just losing the key. For all his talents, it's a weakness of his; always has been.
Anyway, in his diva way, rather than step to the side of the stage and have a word with the sound peeps, during moments of "acoustic duress" Moz will grimace and groan and, wait for it, stop singing a lyric or two.
So that's what happened last night. I was down front and I couldn't be more sure of it.
No offense, haters, just please do your homework in the future.
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I Have 2 Extra Tickets for Ventura show! (Score:1)
Anybody want to go see
Morrissey in Ventura
Tonight?
I'm selling 2 tickets.
email me at: [email protected]
Only serious fans please!
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ignorance is not bliss, sadly... (II) (Score:1)
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Still has it (Score:1)
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Content (Score:1)
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gibson (Score:1)
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Off topic but... (Score:1)
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/features/article_1518605.php/In-Pictures-Hilary-Duff-Loves-Morrissey
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Gibson Show (Score:0)
Ventura (Score:0)
Fuck it - I'm heading up to Ventura (Score:0)
Enough with the Morrissey bashing! (Score:1)
The "fans" on the Morrissey solo site were saying that he looked drunk and he was slurring his words. That could not be further from the truth! I was about 5 feet from the stage and there was no slurring or drunkenness that I saw AT ALL. I feel like I got the best that Morrissey could give last night. I think he amazing and these so called "fans" of his need to direct their negative energy elsewhere or just not attend his concerts anymore. I am a TRUE Morrissey fan and I hate how people on this site are all about bashing an artist that they supposedly love. I wish Morrissey the best and I hope he can have a well deserved rest after this tour.
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It is what it is... (Score:1)
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Last night was lackluster, but I'm still a fan. (Score:0)
If I say that I truthfully think last night was one of Morrissey's worst shows, that doesn't mean I'm "bashing" him or that I'm a "hater." It just was not a good show, plain and simple. I don't know the exact reason — if it was his voice, if it was because he couldn't hear himself, or because he was drunk (?) as some have suggested — whatever it was, he was phoning it in. After about the third song, he sang wrong lyrics or would just give up singing entirely in the middle of a song. I expected him to walk off at any minute, and was genuinely shocked that we got an encore.
I don't want to be branded a "hater," because I love him. I do! I've seen 70 shows total (which I know is lightweight compared to most that post on here), and last night was my personal worst. It pains me to say it, but it's true — it was lackluster and Morrissey himself really didn't seem into it at all. I'm sure even he walked off the stage thinking, "That was rough."
Morrissey is not infallible — none of us are! Everyone has bad days, and yesterday was one for him. I hardly post here, but it bums me out to see people berated when they dare post something that isn't 100% positive about Moz.
Perhaps last night looked even worse up against Tuesday night's show in San Diego, which was one of my personal favorites — but regardless, last night was POOR. And I honestly do not enjoy saying that, but unfortunately it's true.
Here's hoping Ventura goes well!
—April
'Don't make fun of daddy's voice' (Score:1)
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It's not about being negative... (Score:0)
Because he can't help it (Score:1)
I wasn’t expecting miracles because the set list didn’t appeal to me, but on the other hand, it was the Gibson in Moz Angeles. Right from the start the vibe of this show was unlike the others- more casual, less dramatic/energetic. (This was especially obvious, I must confess, because of the barn-burning opening act). I feared, at the several points when Moz stopped singing, that he wasn’t happy with his voice, and he was going to quit. I was just happy to get a complete concert from him, which appeared to be an effort.
I could feel the love from the fans, and I enjoyed the banter and lyric changes and just gazing upon him, but it was an off night. I figure, it’s like a relationship- if you love someone, you put up with their shit and the times they let you down. And I’m old enough to say this: though you wish it were otherwise, you can’t realistically expect them to look or behave like they did in their glory days.
I still love him to bits, cracked voice and all.
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L.A. Weekly Review (Score:1)
http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/last-night/morrissey-gibson-live-los-ange/
(User #23299 Info)
MORRISSEY wannabe fans (Score:0)
Bye you all wannabe assholes
Liked it! (Score:0)
By the way, spotted Chloe Sevigny towards the end getting her group together to go backstage...arghhh.
p.s got video of girl saying " I love you, need you, want you??? Morrissey" and last attempts of people trying to make on stage, girl with short pink hair, etc, will post in a bit
Those video clips! (Score:1)
UNITE AND TAKE OVER
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I know it's over (Score:0)
Once again, I am not talking shit, only speaking the truth. The way Is it Really so Strange was played was terrible! I was bored listening to How Soon is Now, literally. Jessie sucked on guitar, maybe thats the reason why he was rhythm guitar as opposed to lead. Boz was lead guitar. Did anyone catch that?
It felt like he half assed the show or something. There was this strange sense in the air. From the looks of it, I honestly think he's done. Who knows what Moz is feeling or going through, but I'm saddened by what I witnessed. What a sad day.
Its Time for Morrissey 3.0 (Score:0)
And then....
Lose ALL of your band members and songwriting collaborators. Thank them for their yeoman's service but please move on.
Get your ass into some therapy or at least some self-awareness training. You've got some heavy stuff in your future with getting old, coming to terms with your mortality and more importantly the mortality of those who you are close to.
Get the Smiths or at at least Morrissey/Marr reunion (and payday) out of the way. Just Do it. You know in your heart you would like to and the years are creeping up fast on all of us.
Come back with some new collaborators and a fresh take on your gifted talent. And when you do
That is all.
Truly the last of the famous... (Score:1)
alot of new songs i need to catch up on but well worth it..
Ganglord was awesome
Death at ones elbow rocked
the loop always kicks ass
this world is full of crashing bores was dope
and is it really so starnge stole the night
(User #20041 Info)
Repeats (Score:1)
First of the gang to die
Irish Blood
How soon is now
Christ, I'm sick of those.
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