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Encore (Score:1)
Hopefully it's not his ironic way of saying bye to everyone.
Can't wait for Mel's recap!
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Re:Encore (Score:2, Insightful)
Furthermore he needs to perform - that's what he does -0h he'll be back - one day - but as far as I'm concerned he's got some very serious problems to address- both in terms of his health and his creative direction - over the next year or 2.
I hope he never gets trapped into a tour like this again - if he needed the money which some of you think he does because of the sub prime thing why didn't he do a Smiths reunion ? pride ? cussedness? or was the tour a menopausal thing instead of buying a motorbike he went on the road. What ever the reason people close to him should have adviced against it - he might not have survived
And to the nasty people who say he can't cut it well I saw him twice this year and they may not have been his best concerts and he may not have been particularly well but he was, is and always will be special - so leave him alone
Off you go my love to a desert Island and don't forget the discs and complete works of Wilde - a comfy bed is waiting for you
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Again, another great show!! (Score:2, Interesting)
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Time for Morrissey 3.0 (Score:1, Insightful)
And then....
Lose ALL of your band members and songwriting collaborators. Thank them for their yeoman's service but please move on.
Get your ass into some therapy or at least some self-awareness training. You've got some heavy stuff in your future with getting old, coming to terms with your mortality and more importantly the mortality of those who you are close to.
Get the Smiths or at at least Morrissey/Marr reunion (and payday) out of the way. Just Do it. You know in your heart you would like to and the years are creeping up fast on all of us.
Come back with some new collaborators and a fresh take on your gifted talent. And when you do
The bottom line is you are a half-century old. You've likely got less than 10,000 days left to live on this planet.
Make them count.
I thought it was amazing. (Score:1)
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I admit it...Amazing show (Score:0)
Yes I think with his parting words and choice of encore, this could be the last US show.
ignorance, monitors, soundchecking, setlists... (Score:2, Insightful)
Anyway, I must say that although I was confident Moz's onstage "issues" were a result of acoustic wonkiness resulting from monitor issues, his truncated setlist in Ventura has me suspecting otherwise. As many of you are surely aware, several years ago he was doing upwards of 22 songs. This evening, 17. For the end of the tour? The grand finale? Hmmm...
I digress. Some suggest that Morrissey is not soundchecking properly and I heartily agree. If I'm not mistaken, the man doesn't always show up for soundcheck. Does he ever? I'm not sure. Big diva mistake if not. The vocals are as sensitive and as unpredictable in the monitors as any instrument and the vocalist needs to be present in the hall to sort out his particular preferences and communicate them to the sound engineers. There are no tried and true settings that will work adequately for all venues but I suspect that's what the beleaguered tour staff is left to work with while Moz is tucked far away from the venue, nursing a hot cup of tea and scones. As a sensitive, sometimes tonally challenged vocalist, he should be there early, every night, every gig, working out his onstage set-up.
As far as the decision to not wear in-ear monitors goes, it's unusual for an artist at his level, but not unheard of. Dave Gahan (Depeche Mode) also foregoes wearing them. It has to do with the aural experience. In-ear monitors can give one the feeling of being underwater, almost the sense of not really being there. It's like wearing ear plugs. A primary sense is being messed with in a way that can't help but alter the experience for the performer. Interesting, but related aside: Hannah from Doll and the Kicks wears in-ear monitors.
But I will say this: even a meticulous, careful soundcheck can't guarantee a flawless on-stage sound mix come performance time. Two wild variables: 1. soundchecking occurs in an empty hall - people filling a room alter acoustics, sometimes dramatically, and 2. guitars, distorted and affected, are unpredictable beasts at times and can throw off one's sense of pitch quite easily. Overtones and such...boring boring, I'll spare the details.
This will get boring if I go on.
My thought on the Swords: Morrissey does seem exhausted. But with no record deal and no release for the foreseeable future, I imagine a long vacation is exactly what's on tap for the man. Good for him.
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Yay! (Score:1)
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No! (Score:0)
Yummy humble pie (Score:2, Informative)
1/ HSIN?
2/ IRISH
3/ LOOP
4/ LET ME K YOU
5/ ASK
6/ FIRSTOF
7/ CEMETERY
8/ PARIS
9/ IS IT REALLY?
10/ DADDYS
11/ ELBOW
12/ TEEN DAD
13/ GANGLORD
14/ CLOUD
15/ CHARMAN
16/ I'M OK BY
enc: ONE DAY GOODBYE WILL
I thank the Heavens for the 10% chance that it might go on and the rain that kept me in L.A., waiting to hear word on whether the show was canceled. I really thought I would hear that the show was canceled. Crew thought they were gonna have the day off on Friday. Who could blame us for thinking it was a strong possibility?
Slept in. Kept checking for the word in the late morning. Then got the text/call that the gig was ON! Showered and drove up to Ventura. If nothing else, I was looking forward to some good raw vegan food at Mary's Secret Garden around the corner from the venue. The wait turned out to be pleasant if a little cold when the sun set. It had stopped pissing down rain 15 minutes after I arrived. Skies were clear and blue the rest of the afternoon.
Although tix were still available at noon, by 1800, heard that the box office was 20 tickets shy of selling out. I think it sold out eventually. This was a relief but still rather disappointing since the last time Moz sang @ the Ventura Majestic, he had sold out much earlier and that was a mid-week show amidst a plethora of SoCal dates that week. Latecomers were able to score tix below face value ($60 instead of $105 including ticketbastard fees) very easily today.
Morrissey sang for approximately one hour tonight. I only noticed that he dropped notes once. The green and red metallic cups were onstage, but I think he only drank from the room temp water bottles -- looked like Fiji water. Voice was harsh and growly during Teen Dad (sounded like his raw, tour-ravaged voice on Live in Dallas), but he seemed to go back to smooth and velvety tones after that. But I still worried he could be damaging his vocal cords permanently by pushing himself to finish the shows and not taking proper care. Please, take a break, Morrissey! You deserve it!
The stage was low, but there was a barrier. They blocked off the sides of the stage with stacks, thwarting a means to steathily stage-invade that had been used the last time he sang @ the Ventura Majestic. The venue did not allow most types of gifts, so it was not early Xmess for Mozzer this last show.
Moz came out wearing a dark (navy blue?) blazer over a black shirt and the usual frayed denims. At the appropriate moment during Lemme K You, he tossed the black shirt into the crowd and came back wearing a nice light blue shirt. Encore was a white shirt.
Crowd was very excited and appreciative, but it did not seem more so than in L.A. or Pomona. Most of the audience was from L.A. DATK asked how many had traveled from L.A. tonight. They invited the audience to inquire about tix for their show at the Whiskey on Monday.
Got a funny look of recognition with some exaggerated eye-brow raising from duh Man. When Solomon does his repetitive badass bass outro in the spotlight on “I'm OK”, I can't look at him, so I look at Moz even though he's inscrutable because of the darkness over his face. But I could tell his eyebrows were going into overdrive with the constant up and down motion.
Banter (not quite as chatty as some other nights):
After IBEH: “Are you happy? How do you know?”
After Lemme K You did band intros in reverse order from usual: “My band is your band. And we have Gustavo Manzur. We have Jesse Tobias. We have Matt Walker on the drums. On the bass we have Solomon Walker. And the irrepressible Boz Boorer.”
Before Cemetry Gates: “As we scramble our way around the gl
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Great Show! Saw Moz and Boz Afterward! (Score:2, Interesting)
This definitely was a step up from the Universal show last night! At Universal I was 5 rows back and Moz's voice was a bit off and he also seemed out of it- but tonight I was "on the rail" (technically) up front- but far to the right next to the speakers so I had no chance at a handshake - but the view of the stage was awesome! My ears are still ringing but hey what an amazing closing show! I managed to meet singer Doll from opening band Doll and the Kicks before the show and got a quick pic with her. Afer the show saw Moz get into his waiting getaway car and also got a lucky quick snapshot of that. And finally as I was heading home I ran into Boz as he was headed into the Irish Pub across the street for a Pint- got a quick hello and pic with him as well!
All my pix tonight:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaytando/sets/72157622859991209/
Cheers,
Jay
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Safe. (Score:0)
Always yours, DJ.
It may NOT all end tomorrow (Score:1, Insightful)
is it (Score:1)
*chills*
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So grab me while you still can - goodbye... (Score:1, Interesting)
I got the kids dressed and ready last night to go return a video and thought to myself...you know what, go see Moz. We were ticketless, it was pouring outside, I had the kiddies in tow, but damn it I was gonna give it a shot! It's not the first time I decided to see Moz on a whim.
We had no umbrella with us so we made a quick stop to go buy one. Well, I wasn't going to be a total reckless mom.
We pulled in to the parking garage and could not find a single spot, drove all the way up to the top level and found 1 left in the very last row. My 7 yr old son said he 'had butterflies in his stomach'. So did I. We walked up to the theatre door. We could hear it!
I told my 9 and 7 yr old boys to follow me. The guard at the door did one of those number's where they just turn around and act like they don't see you walking through. But again, I did want to be a 'good mom' and not completely embarrass my kids if we were stopped. So I told the guard we are all Morrissey fans and I wanted the kids a chance to see him...if only for a second. We got in!
It was during the encore - one day goodbye will be farewell. You know how you sometimes overlook one of his songs, then all the sudden you hear it at a time in your life when it just makes sense, and your like 'why had I not found the meaning in this jem before?' We only saw him for a mere momment, but what a momment...It was one of those momments. His final verse: "so grab me while you still can - goodbye". I hear ya Moz! I'd heard you all night in my heart saying this.
I a 2004 show I saw him at he said the words, "this is what happens when you leave the house!" I want to show my kids that you can't be affraid to take a chance. Maybe we wouldn't of made it in, at least we tried. What if the cashier at the store had taken a little longer to ring up those umbrellas, or the light outside the freeway hadn't stayed green as long as it did, on there wasn't the one spot open atop the roof, or my 9 yr old had failed his mission in 'heeling' fast enough to catch that elevator door before it went back down without us. No, not tonight my love...the star aligned for us! Don't be afraid to take a chance, and to show the ones you love while you still can.
Thanks for comin' out buddies. (Score:2, Interesting)
bbgfe1 and family
P.S. The other day, my youngest son said, “Dad, I want to hear Morrissey because we haven’t heard him for a long time. I said okay. Without the CD even starting, he started to sing, “When last I spoke to Carol I said….. “ I was thinking, ‘Man, you better learn your prayers!”
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"There will be blood" (Score:0)
Whatever happens, I love you . . . (Score:1)
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2009 tour review dickie felton's highs and lows (Score:2, Interesting)
Maybe it was the late night booze with jessie tobias and boz in a hotel bar in omagh that refused to close ?
Maybe or my "bunking in" to the Alexandra Hall aftershow when Moz ws like ten feet away from me?
Surely his homecoming/ 50th birthday show was the best?
A ticketless dickie felton loitering selling some silly book and someone, a saviour called cathy, appeared with a spare ticket.
Or was the main moment that six seconds on a pier in great Yarmouth when Moz signed my book and later namechecked dick dastardley during the show?
My attempt at rushing the stage was comical that night. At 36 years young and carrying a stone more than I should be, Arturo has never had an easier invader to deal with. still, I did get a handshake from the father...
Oh come on dickie, you can't top publishing a book on him and his fans? It was even in the "most recommended " section of Waterstones York for 15 minutes. Infamy at last.
Liverpool was a shocker. Six minutes then no more.
Has anyone lynched the perpetrator yet?
What about Dublin? The sea? The free wine in the exclusive bar inches away from the bay. A dash to the national stadiuum, cracking company and getting locked out of my dorm at 4.45am. Ouch.
The best moment???????
The songs the songs the songs?
"why don't you find out for yourself" sounding as emotional and lovely and bitter as anytime in 1994.
Or getting given a strip of his shirt on my last night. The scent of Commes Des Garcons still lingers. It's on my Christmas want list.
The worst moment? Sat at home in Liverpool as reports of a near disaster at Swindon came thru. Thank god it was all ok.
The criticism has been stinking this time. It's uncalled for, rude and almost criminal. Go and watch Britney mime for two hours instead if you don't like him anymore.
Glasgow barrowlands was perfect. Slightly drunk and slightly sunk by the kindness and charming conversation of fellow Moz warriors. Chaynne is the name.
Oh hannah the doll was charming too. I have the photos to prove. She was blonde in bonny Scotland but brunet by swords. Either way a talent. And she took my book for her dad. Lovely.
Belfast was nice. I got a tattoo. "Ss Ceramic White Star Line" Torpeadoed 1942 my grandfather aboard and doomed. Moz was sensational that night at the city's Waterfront.
Ah the sea the sea the sea. Mickey and pals were so fine on the street outside.
But the moment? The numero UNO?
An august morning and Frankie felton arrives on this earth.
Mum and dad shocked and thrilled.
When we got him home that first night we played him morrissey and frank Sinatra.
Heaven.
Dickie felton dec 12th 2009
www.thedayimetmorrissey.com
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Not wanting to say goodbye... (Score:2, Informative)
As mentioned by many already, it was a Fantastic show!
The entire tour, indeed the entire year, has been quite an experience for Moz, his entire posse and us fans (!).
Last night was certainly a night to remember (and yes, I'm being honest, Moz).
Before I go into it, I'll cover a bit of the context of the night before since I wasn't able to write much of anything for the LA/Gibson show. Cheers to rocketboyracer and Melanie for remembering the banter to a "T" and the flourescent green bandaid Moz wore on the end of one of his pinky fingers. (That's very sweet you returned it instead of taking it away to analyze the dna for future Moz clones, haha!... erhm... ;).
The Gibson show was held in great admiration (from the inside) for Moz sticking it through the entire show even though at one point it turned into a train wreck (it's hard enough to face a crowd and do a great show, nearly impossible to do it when you know things have messed up and can't get your mind off it and only thinking what next will go to sh**? while standing in front of thousands of smiling expectant faces). To put it shortly, it was confirmed that Moz stuck it out for us. He definitely felt the love coming back to him and bravely stayed with us to finish despite not feeling it (and probably wanting to run right out). He did walk before Sol's solo at the end of 'Ok by Myself' and I turned to Miranda Grey next to me and said, "uh-oh, maybe he's not okay by himself?" I was very surprised there was an encore, really happy there was one, and delighted that the boyz all came out in Doll & The Kicks shirts. M had obviously planned a great night for us all, knowing it was near the end of (at least) the tour and ready to gently hand off Doll & The Kicks to the arms of our future support. Yes, "you win some, you lose some" and it all evens out in the end. Despite the hisses and groans, we truly love you, Moz, and the ones who care, who dare, will be there to the very end.
Doll & the Kicks: They really gave their all for the industry-filled LA show. Very strong performance and Doll/Hannah wore a stunning creme white taffeta top tucked in at the waist, translucent silk/chiffon sleeves and chest with diamond studs paired with punked out tight black shorts with ripped black stockings and shiny black high heeled shoes. She was definitely dressed to impress and they (all the band) sure did with their performance. Very supportive audience as well. Doll/Hannah gave a very sweet, warm "Thank Youuuuu" to Moz for having them along for the tour before the end of their set. She'd earlier also mentioned that they were spending this next week relaxing in LA, and found out last night that they will be playing not only The Whiskey on Monday night (8:15pm start time), but also possibly an acoustic set on Thursday at The York (in Highland Park), and The Echoplex on Friday (in Echo Park, entrance off Glendale Blvd, street parking anywhere you can find it off Glendale, the park, and Sunset above).
Wardrobe: Moz wore a diagonally checkered shirt (dark blue on white, I believe), pin-striped slacks. Hair a bit on the tousled side (too busy for hair product that night?). The boyz wore charcoal dark grey collar-less thermal tops, dark black-blue jeans.
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Okay, yesterday, Friday, Ventura, final show... of Swords...
Arrived mid-set for Doll & The Kicks after rain, traffic and security hassles over candy and camera (lame!).
Crowd seemed to be showing pretty good support to D & tK, not too rowdy, though, at this point. Doll/Hannah wore a pretty black and white, gauzy collar with small black polkadots on one layer, paired with vintage black top with diamond jewel/crystal at the cleavage and shorts with turned up silver-studded cuffs and belt (the same as Oakland). The Ventura Theatre (as well as that whole old-town area) is vintage
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One Day Goodbye.... (Score:0)
What will happen next?
please answer question... (Score:1)
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Off-topic... (Score:0)
I know its over (Score:1)
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I guess we compare too much, or getting spoiled (Score:0)
Maladjusted / Boy Racer / Alma Matters / Billy Budd / Reader Meet Author / Wide To Receive / Ambitious Outsiders / The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get / Roy's Keen / Speedway / Now My Heart Is Full / Paint A Vulgar Picture / The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils
Elizabeth
Indio? (Score:0)
MORRISSEY
Fantasy Springs Resort Casino regretfully announces that the Morrissey concert scheduled for Saturday, December 5th at 8pm has been postponed. The rescheduled date will be announced as soon as possible.
Fantasy Springs Resort Casino management was informed Saturday morning that Morrissey had “blown out his voice” and would be unable to perform Saturday night.
Tickets to Morrissey’s December 5th show will be honored at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino for the artist’s rescheduled date, or ticket holders may receive a refund in person at the Box Office or via telephone (800) 827-2946. The rescheduled date will be announced as soon as possible. Fantasy Springs Box Office hours are 10:00a.m. to 9:00p.m. on Saturday, December 5th and 10:00a.m. to 6:00p.m. all other days.
TICKETS: $39 - $69
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"I can't help the way that I feel"; great show (Score:0)
Play list better than at Gibson - not fair! (Score:0)