posted by davidt on Monday October 14 2002, @09:00AM
ellen writes:

Morrissey will hold a press conference in Melbourne on Tuesday 15th October. Published in a Melbourne street paper today:

'UK singer Morrissey will hold a press conference in Melbourne tomorrow to highlight cruelty to elephants in Thailand.

The former Smiths frontman- in Melbourne to perform at Saturday's Livid festival-will join People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals' call for a tourism boycott until the Thai government protects elephants.'
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  • Have they lost our trust?
    David T (different) -- Monday October 14 2002, @09:37AM (#45324)
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  • are all crap and should be abolished. on the other hand, thai food rules. pass the pad thai please.
    Johnny Marr -- Monday October 14 2002, @11:01AM (#45338)
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  • Well done for standing up for this Morrissey.

    Bless you.
    Anonymous -- Monday October 14 2002, @11:11AM (#45340)
  • it's nice to see Moz use his celebrity for something worthwhile for a change (no, the "fight" against Top 40 mediocrity does not count).

    i love andrew wk
    -easymeat
    Anonymous -- Monday October 14 2002, @11:29AM (#45342)
  • Huh??? (Score:2, Funny)

    What about all the elephants in India also? The ones that they make paint and stuff. And have you seen their art? It's not really that good, but it sells for lots of money and I am sure that the elephants don't get a hefty cut at all. And I am not making this up. They really do shove a paint brush in the elepahnts trunk and make it paint canvas, and when they don't want to paint any more, they sometimes beat them and stuff. Talk about inspiration........
    Sharron Needles -- Monday October 14 2002, @11:45AM (#45344)
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    Inside every adult male is a denied little boy -Nancy Friday
  • I'm so glad someone else is speaking out about this important issue. I mean, who gives a fuck if New York is being bombed by terrorists when elephants are being killed! They are ignoring the animals and that is more important. Save the elephants!
    lee from blue -- Monday October 14 2002, @11:54AM (#45345)
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  • more info can be found @ Peta

    http://www.peta.org/feat/thaielephants/index.html
    charles byron <{boy_afraid} {at} {hotmail.com}> -- Monday October 14 2002, @12:03PM (#45347)
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    life without my sweetheart is only half a life
  • Top geezer (Score:2, Insightful)

    Good on the Mozzer, heart of gold. Enough of the cynical remarks, the man cares about endangered animals, has anyone seriously got a problem with that?
    stockwell martyr -- Monday October 14 2002, @12:51PM (#45357)
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  • i don't know if you guys have ever seen how they treat dogs in korea...it is horrendous! i could not believe when i saw this on television...the dogs are grabbed by the throat with some sort of leash (something sort of like what police men use)and throw them into an enormous hot boiling bowl filled with water. the poor defenseless dogs try to escape but they can't and the people were just there watching like nothing was happening. can you imagine something like this happening to anyone? of course the dogs die burned in misery. i have a little puppy and a rottweiler and i would die if anything like this ever happened to them.
    Anonymous -- Monday October 14 2002, @01:11PM (#45363)
  • who the fuck care if you're american, english, mexican or japanese, fat or skinny , SAVE THE ELEPHANTS and all the animals in extinction and cruelty to animals, BRAVISISIMO Morrissey well done!!
    I support the boycott!
    UNLOVEABLE -- Monday October 14 2002, @01:42PM (#45369)
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  • You know regardless of whether you wish to save the animals or what- I'm just thinking that any publicity that Moz creates can only be good. If he does stuff like this, then he can get back in the public eye. That it's a good cause is a bonus.

    A bit callous, i suppose- but think how often you see articles and programs featuring Bono, based on his extraciricular activites- but as long as people are taking notice of Moz, he stays vital.
    Rowdy Yeats -- Monday October 14 2002, @06:31PM (#45401)
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  • Look, cruelty to Elephants in Thailand might not rank on some people's agendas...but is rather ghastly, espcially to the poor Elephants.

    I think it's quite good for Moz to use his celebrity to highlight this subject. Maybe something can be done for the Elephants.
    Rediffusion -- Monday October 14 2002, @07:16PM (#45407)
    (User #176 Info)
    What do we get for our trouble and pain? Whalley Range!
  • cats and dogs who'll end up in the kitchen of chinese restaurants?

    My point, why now? why elephants in Thailand?
    Why a pressconference in Australia?

    There are so many animals whose populations
    are increesing fast.

    I mean it's okay Morrissey does this, but have
    we ever have this sorta item when he's in LA
    not touring?
    [yeah we know he's a vegetarian and supports
    PETA, but he could do pressconferences a lot
    more about animals who suffer and should be
    protected]
    [bearshooting in USA/Canada for an example]
    Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Monday October 14 2002, @08:21PM (#45415)
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    and the hills are alive with celibate cries
    • Re:what about by Benji (Score:1) Monday October 14 2002, @11:55PM
  • can anyone tell me where and when this press conference will be and if it will be shown anywhere???
    Anonymous -- Monday October 14 2002, @08:42PM (#45417)
  • wow... (Score:0, Flamebait)

    when was the last time he held a press conference about anything?

    elephants are cool. its always fun when they start trying to stomp circus trainers.
    jw picklebreath -- Monday October 14 2002, @10:01PM (#45419)
    (User #6755 Info)
    still the same great flavor
  • i disagree (Score:0, Flamebait)

    if elephants had the chance they'd probably eat you!
    leedoggpimp <[email protected]> -- Monday October 14 2002, @11:53PM (#45428)
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    True friends stab you in the front.
  • Where are morrissey's tour t-shirts made?

    If they are made in a sweatshop in south east asia, then he needs to consider the ethical treatment of humans in asia as well as animals.
    artifact -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @12:03AM (#45430)
    (User #4639 Info)
  • Im confused, ive been reading these comments and there are a lot of american people being offended by anti-american comments but i havent read any anti-american comments! Was it that quote from that person from Blue that someone used?! That was a joke! But i suppose no american would know that that bloke from Blue said it!
    sPANS -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @01:51AM (#45440)
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    There are fewer more distressing sights than that of an englishman in a baseball cap!
  • This is completely off-topic but i was just thinking- in that janice long interview Morrissey said he was no longer cellibate but in an article (observer or guardain?) a few weeks ago he said he wasnt interested in sex when he was 17 and still isnt! Im confused why does he keep saying different things! I remember a few years ago reading something in select where he said he had just come out of a relationship with someone and was broken hearted and then in Q the next month he said he had never been in love or been in a relationship! How do we know if anything the Mozz says is true!
    sPANS -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @01:57AM (#45441)
    (User #6020 Info)
    There are fewer more distressing sights than that of an englishman in a baseball cap!
    • Re:mozza by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday October 15 2002, @09:15AM
  • (from the PETA-site):

    There is an air of celebration in the village as the baby elephant, unable to move in any direction, awaits her fate. Young and old come to watch and participate in the spectacle before them.

    One by one, additional ropes and steel cables are wrapped around her belly, legs, and feet—even her tail is bound. She desperately tries to thwart off her tormentors to no avail, using her trunk to push the ropes away and to defend herself from their painful blows. But there is no mercy. Her trunk and the sensitive skin between her toenails are hit with clubs and punctured with nail-studded sticks, and nails are inserted into her ear canals.

    Bound and exhausted, she can no longer stand. Her legs give out, forcing her to hang by the ropes choking her neck or wrapped around her belly or to collapse against the sides of the cage. A jab to the ribs sends her momentarily upright again.

    A village elder climbs on top of her and straddles her neck. He holds a stick attached to a long, curved, and pointed blade. Speaking in Thai, he delivers a message to the baby elephant, “Remember, if you don’t go against us, we won’t hurt you.” He raises the blade, spits on it, and sinks it into her head, directly between her ears. Each time he drives the blade into her head, he strains to work it back out of her tortured and bloodied flesh. Later, it is discovered that she has lost her ability to hear, most likely the result of this elder’s sadistic lesson.

    The elder dismounts and two young men take his place. They casually sit atop her back, one smoking a cigarette. His cigarette break over, the man fervently works the pointed end of a stick into the wound in her head, placed there by the village elder. She roars in inescapable agony, lifting her head in a futile attempt to shake off this instrument of pain.

    Dusk has fallen upon the village, and through the smoke of a campfire burning beside her cage, her sorrowful eyes reveal the fear and confusion of a baby elephant whose world has been turned upside down. Her mother is gone and she has been bound, beaten, and abused by those she trusted. However, her ordeal is far from over. For the next several days, she is denied food, water, and sleep. Taking shifts, the villagers beat her day and night, ensuring that her subjugation is absolute and complete.

    A week later, witnesses to the beatings discover her tied to a tree outside the village. Her eyes are swollen shut, blood and pus run down her large, torn ears, and her body is covered with raw wounds. Footage of other caged baby elephants with diarrhea coating the backs of their legs is graphic evidence of the pure terror that they endure. Beatings will be used regularly for the rest of their lives to remind them “who’s boss.” Some will eventually snap from the strain of relentless abuse, attacking and killing mahouts and tourists. Click here for a partial list of elephant incidents in Thailand."
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @02:27AM (#45443)
  • well done morrissey, really, but what do u think about politics? you know, not the music industry? like many intelligent europeans and americans i've met, he focuses on injustices not connected to humans. like others, he sees human beings every day and they look quite happy to him. no word from moz on 9/11. no word, i suspect, would be heard about the explosion in australia.
    no word about the IRA in his beloved ireland, no word about the ridiculous campaign against iraq, no word about people dying in the middle east.

    i begin to think that all his coming down on the queen and thatcher was because he saw them as personally responsible for his childhood poverty.
    he could never relate to human suffering that he himself hasn't experienced. his only sympathy is mercy-like sympathy, to ones he feels are weaker than him - animals, immigrants, foreigners.

    i'm his biggest fan when it comes to his introspections, but i feel he should robbed of his title as a social radicalist, as a political preacher. he contradicts himself so much when it comes to wealth and poverty, england and america, foreigners and national culture, i don't feel like moz himslef know why he likes certain things and others not. surely most if it is irrational.

    noam, israel.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @04:11AM (#45452)
  • He has everyone talking on this board about relevant issues! I am from the USA and not offended at all by any critique of the USA on this board...that is what it is about! Besides...I have heard the Mozzer be more critical about his homeland than anywhere else! As far as the crulety to elephants issue...watch the video on the PETA site.. unless you are evil or have the mentality of a 12 year old, you have to agree that the treatment of them is horrendous... Even if you eat meat and feel that animals are incapible of sentience and should be property/for our entertainment, this stuff is pure evil! They are treating elephants like the Taliban treats women...prodding them with sticks until they know who is boss... Thanks Morrissey...for both your politics and your ability to cause controversy...BRAVO!
    -Jonathon Hyde
    [email protected]
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @05:44AM (#45460)
  • By bringing my tourism money elsewhere, people like myself can only hope that pressure like this picks up and draws attention to this issue, perhaps even having an impact on Thai government policy.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @09:21AM (#45494)
  • I swear, I wish I could just give him a big hug. He's so sweet and compassionate. :)
    Anonymous-shnonymous <[email protected]> -- Tuesday October 15 2002, @06:47PM (#45549)
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    Anything is hard to find when you will not open your eyes.
  • It was a peta press conference. (surprise,surprise...) Hope he'll do more for them in the future.
    Johan de Witt <[email protected]> -- Wednesday October 16 2002, @08:18AM (#45596)
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