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posted by
davidt
on Sunday May 16 2004, @11:00AM
deity writes:
An article in today's Sunday Herald - a Glasgow paper, attackng Morrissey for daring to ask to be seen as 'not feeling shameful, racist or partial' It drags up the same old fascit stuff again and is just an excuse to have a go at the Union flag. The Herald and Sunday Herald are little more than mouthpieces of the Catholic Church in Glasgow - a city where segregated (based on religioun)schooling is alive and well and paid for by the local councils. The Cathholic Church inists that catholic kids should not be allowed to mix with kids of other religious backgrounds - one of the major issues that fuels the secterian bile that blights Glasgow Many feel that the Herald has an anti British stance - and it's hard to argue with that when reading this article... English Heartache - Scotsman.com, Sun 16 May 2004 When Morrissey wrapped himself in the Union flag, there was a case to be made for his defence. Now he’s at it again … but this time fascists are out in force, there’s a war going on and symbols matter more than ever By Ian Bell
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Racist? (Score:2, Interesting)
I HOPE he isn't being patriotic/nationalistic, because in a time where the BNP are gaining ground quite scarily, it would be very bad for someone of Mozza's position to fan the flames of racism.
I personally think in the song he is saying that he doesn't like the way Britain is now, and he wants to be happy in how the country is run. For example, he talks about how he wishes for a time when people are fed up of "Labour and Tories". This is quite an anti-establishment message.
Please just calm me down, and tell me that he was being 'Ironic' about the flag...
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Yawn (Score:0)
broken
not an attack surely? (Score:1)
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Rubbish! (Score:0)
Sectarian schooling in Glasgow indeed does not help to integrate all sections of society, but the notion of the Catholic Church, as you put it "inist(ing) that Catholic kids should not be allowed to mix with kids of other religious backgrounds", is at least 50 years out of date, if not 100.
This is equally ignorant as anything in the Herald article.
Oh dear!... (Score:0)
'Deity' - neither the voice of reason nor Glasgow (Score:0)
Whatever anyone thinks of The Sunday Herald review of the album, let's put a few things straight.
Glasgow is not Belfast circa 1972! There is a sectarian divide yes, but this is just territorial nonsense, and mostly revolves around football (Rangers being protestant, Celtic being catholic). The idea that the city's media is in the grip of some catholic conspiracy is just laughable but it's alarming that your outrageous views should enter your post. Have a gripe about them slagging Morrissey if you want by all means, that's a separate issue, but your scaremongering and alarmist language is quite offensive and totally uncalled for. Scotland is a different country to England and devolution/identity has always been a big political issue so it's understandable that somebody sooner or later would criticise Morrissey's patriotism (the MOJO interview raised similar issues in discussing Irish and Scottish national identity). A lot of Scottish people are uncomfortable with the union jack because of the history of bloodshed/genocide that dates back hundreds of years, so it's a fair topic of discussion. A lot of Scottish Morrissey fans won't identify with his identification with the union jack.
The Herald is a very liberal paper and probably the most intelligent of the Scottish broadsheets. 'Anti-British' it ain't!
Herald "review" (Score:0)
Good piece (Score:1)
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Anti-British? (Score:1)
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Picture this... (Score:0)
Terry
'Moz Attacked in Glasgow' (Score:0)
Anyway, so the Catholic Church is now being blamed for a bad Moz review? and the conspiracy goes all the way up to the Pope, no less...
Soct's - Cathloic, Protestant, Muslim or Jew don't want to hear your sad little bigatory.
Deity Shmeity (Score:1)
I have never seen how any connections made concerning the BNP and Morrissey have any relevance whatsoever.
Deity's other comments however are rather curious, especially odd considering that the newspaper in question used to have a Secterian employment policy and didn't even employ Catholics until the 1970's. He sounds to me to be quite the unhinged conspiracy theorist with his head stuck in a pre-70's unenlightened Glasgow which thankfully now only exists in the darkest reaches of its society.
The Herald the mouthpiece of the Catholic Church? Diety the mouthpiece of outmoded Glasgow bigotry. Bet you hated the reference to Moz's "Irish Blood" eh?
And I'm not even a Catholic...
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