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posted by
davidt
on Monday February 07 2005, @09:00AM
Velvetnose writes:
Taken from a recent article in the London Times entitled "Will the Real Elvis Please Standup?" Elvis was being compared to Bowie and Jagger as an English icon and had this to describe the fragility of being an artist today. "Take Morrissey. For me, he’s been singing the same tune for 20 years. I just don’t get it. But he’s clearly an interesting character and means a lot to people. He seems to be of a disposition that is very sensitive to criticism and therefore it’s appropriately English that he becomes cherished in that kind of Frankie Howard, Tony Hancock way. Those who are fragile, who need to be cosseted, maybe their shortcomings or their excellence in their field is then woven into the fabric along with Albert Tatlock and Hobnobs.”
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I don`t get the get (Score:1, Interesting)
Fair enough comment he made though.
-Ben G
Sour Grapes (Score:0)
crap artist has fuck all to say (Score:1)
(User #1939 Info | http://www.morrissey-solo.com/)
Tony Hancock and Frankie Howard? (Score:1)
I think Elvis Costello is almost as cool as the guy who played Skippy in Family Ties.
(User #1342 Info)
Take it for what it is! (Score:1)
So in the grand scheme of things Elvis Costello has been one of the better artists of the thirty years, even if most people on this site don't listen to and buy his records.
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I'm sorry (Score:0)
There is no objective way any serious critic could say Morrissey has been singing the same song for 20 years. It's just not true.
It's basically a very shallow judgement based on the fact that he doesn't dabble in vastly different genres the way Costello does.
I like Elvis but the man has a massive ego and I think I detect traces of the green eyed monster.
The same tune for 20 years??? (Score:1)
(User #13191 Info)
costello the twat (Score:0)
So 'Elvis' is having a pop again. I recall 'Elvis' some time back saying , " Morrissey writes the most interesting song titles , but , misses the song" or words to that effect. Basically saying , Moz doesnt know how to write a lyric. Fucking hell , if only 'Elvis' could write with the same conviction , passion and humour as Moz and then he would have the right to say what he likes. Costello compared to Bowie etc , do me a fucking favour.
Message to ' Elvis ' ,1: firstly drop the name ' Elvis ' , you shouldnt even be branded with that name , 2 : your not supposed to get ' it ' you thick twat and 3: go away you crashing bore , no fuckers interested or about writing another song and stop living off 'Olivers army'. Will someone tell me who OLiver is , i dont get it.
this just in from elviscostello-solo.com.... (Score:1)
Don't worry Moz. We still love you!
(User #12669 Info)
Oooh, he's jealous . . . (Score:1)
I am not really sure I 'get' Elvis Costello. He always pulls such annoying faces in his videos; I forget which one it is - but there are palm trees in it - and if ever he did have a good voice, he couldn't shout 'Coal' these days. This being said, they do often play his song* in the corner shop where I live.
*Oliver's Army.
(User #9489 Info)
Better to have one tune...than none at all (Score:2, Funny)
Bands that have been singing the same tune for 20 years are pathetic.
signed,
Drama Rama
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So what? (Score:0)
"I Just Don't Get It" (Score:1, Insightful)
Same Tune? (Score:0)
Every Day us like…...v Glamorous Glue.
November Spawned...v Suffer Little Children
The More you Ignore Me v Teachers
One could go on and on, but the same tune for 20 years? He is not exactly Status Quo is he Mr Elvis?
Well you are entitled to your opinion mate.
(User #10088 Info)
costellos lywics to Olivers army (Score:0)
oliwer im barmy , they are on there way
and i wood rather bee anywhere else than
hanging out the back of a man today.
stop laughing , you know you can hear you singing the tune to those lywics. Now costello , they are lywics.....cant pwonounce me r's
Whatever Elvis! (Score:1)
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A one-time angry man... (Score:1)
At least Morrissey is consistent and not constantly trying on new hats. Which reminds me, Costello needs to lose the pork-pie hat, or is he also trying to be Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin all rolled up into one?!
*Impostor* indeed.
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almost speechless (Score:0)
i'm sorry he doesn't get Morrissey but am so very glad that i get both of them and have for over 20 years. my life is certainly the richer for it.
Pretentious little prick (Score:0)
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Costello is a commercial failure... (Score:0)
I've not explored EC's back catalogue. I like Oliver Army. But I hate the way he sings in that ridiculously contrived accent which is the complete opposite to Morrissey's approach. His voice is so ugly and he's constantly trying to disguise his accent by adopting that nauseating mid-Atlantic inflexion, fine on american peeps but uttterly ridiculous on a short little fella from Essex.
J
A Feeble Attempt (Score:1)
"Those who are fragile, who need to be cosseted, maybe their shortcomings or their excellence in their field is then woven into the fabric along with Albert Tatlock and Hobnobs.”
Really?! Then, what about those who are *jealous*?
(User #724 Info)
Morrissey fans so spiteful (Score:0)
I mean, for goodness sake. Everyone's been licking Moz's backside for the past 12 months, the guy's touring with his name displayed in giant spangly letters onstage (talking of egomania) and now you cannot even tolerate a MILD tiny wee bit of criticism???!!!
Grow up!
Each to their own. Costello is cool (ok his last few albums are a bit irrelevant, but he still comes out with some gems) and so is Morrissey - well, until very recently...
Morrissey.... (Score:0)
i still don't like Elvis' vibrato (Score:0)
nobody's stuff sounds more the same than his.
Get off the weed, Elvis! (Score:1)
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Who is Elvis Costello? (Score:1)
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The same song for 20 years (Score:1)
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Hob nobs (Score:0)
When did Albert Tatlock last release a decent album ?
I much prefered the work of Ena Sharples and Minnie Caldwell.
Elvis has left the building (Score:1)
Moz on the other had, although not consistently as good as the Smiths (who in a 20 year career is ever consistently good) still puts out 5 or 6 great songs out per album. Look at the range of styles from the Vini Reilly/string-laden Viva Hate to the rockabilly years to the prog-rock/theatric 'Southpaw Grammar' to the electronics of 'Maladjusted'.
Moz is still one of the best. Elvis's old co-hort Nick Lowe still makes some decent albums. Elvis is not even up to that standard. I wouldn't be surprised if Elvis is no longer one of the top 100 songwriters in the Uk right now. sadly, Elvis- time to get off the stage.
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Elvis Costello is so jealous! (Score:0)
He 'doesnt get it'. (Score:1)
(User #13345 Info)
Morrissey fans stike again! (Score:1)
And by the way, I love Hob-Nobs and would love to be comapred to them.
(User #335 Info)
Living On Past Glories (Score:1)
And he USED to have GOOD record sales.
In comparrison Morrissey is STILL GREAT, and has MASSIVE record sales.
To say Moz can't write a lyric, and is still playing the same one tune, is the most absurd thing anyone could ever say, and it's the sort of comment you would expect to hear from a 14 year old Busted fan, and not someone like Costello.
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Alt. (Score:0)
I don't mean that in an offensive way, though... Maybe one day I'll get into him... I used to hate Morrissey, after all... Hobnobs...
False Name (Score:1)
(User #12542 Info)
The nuance... (Score:1)
That whinger from The Auteurs has a similar tone when he speaks about Moz. Basically "My lyrics are more brillianter than his! Why ain't I as huge as he?"
'Coz you ain't as good! (words, music, style, looks). Dat be why!
(User #80 Info)
Lighten Up! (Score:0)
All this hogwash that Elvis hasn't made a decent album in decades is garbage. His last album was very good and the one before that North, man, I love that album. Someone said he doesn't put any passion into his songwriting, that's simply not true, some of his music is heartbreaking.
Having said that, I agree that his voice is a bit rough hewn. I can totally understand someone not liking his music because of it. Though whoever said he has a one note voice is dead wrong. The guy can sing, he's certainly not tone deaf. He hits every note, it may be a little strained, but he hits it.
But I think Morrissey's voice (though I love it completely) can be a little off putting to some. My girlfriend hates Morrissey and Elvis Costello and when you ask her why, she says their voices.
At any rate, I think most of you all are taking Elvis a little to literally. He doesn't mean that every Morrissey song is the same tune, I think he just means that Morrissey has a certain sound, which he doesn't stray far from. Maybe this is in large part due to his voice, but I think it's fairly accurate. I just think Elvis doesn't get it, meaning he just can't relate. Well, that's fine. He still, it seems, has some respect for Morrissey.
Elvis and Morrissey are both brilliant.
I think we should just lay off Elvis, I mean it was hardly a biting criticism.
not the real elvis (Score:0)
Er, (Score:0)
a couple people almost got it right (Score:0)
Basically: Elvis is not talking out of his ass, and both he and Morrissey are highly respectable artists. He says he "doesn't get it," which is just fine. Probably the finest way to admit a distaste.