posted by davidt on Friday September 03 2010, @10:00AM
Update: 09/03 20:46 GMT:
Interview is online, links from Dave2006 (posted in the forums in the previous thread):

Morrissey interview: Big mouth strikes again - by Simon Armitage, The Guardian
For 30 years, poet Simon Armitage's admiration for Morrissey has bordered on the obsessive. But could his love survive an encounter with the famously sharp-tongued singer-songwriter?

Also:
Morrissey reignites racism row by calling Chinese a 'subspecies' - by Alexandra Topping, The Guardian (includes additional statement from Morrissey)
Remark came in attack on animal welfare in China, with singer having faced repeated criticism on race comments
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Kewpie sends the link to the thread in the forums started by Vic Strangeways (via Morrissey reddit) detailing the forthcoming interview and photos in The Guardian Weekend (Sep. 4):

Morrissey on Guardian

Update: 09/03 17:33 GMT:
preview pic replaced by clearer pic posted in the Guardian Twitter feed (sistasheila posted in the forum thread, credit to quiffaas site):

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Posted in the thread by Sim Tappertit:
The Guardian's Kath Viner has been tweeting about the interview. She says "He has some sparkling lines - with one appalling exception."

She won't elaborate what that "appalling" comment is. The fact the headline is "Bigmouth Strikes Again" is now making me a bit worried. Wasn't that the NME headline a few years ago when THAT interview came out?
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  • That's a blown up picture of a very small preview pic in today's paper, hence the poor quality.
    uncleskinny -- Friday September 03 2010, @10:04AM (#355735)
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  • "Big Mouth Strikes Again"? More like "Lazy Sub-Editor Strikes Again"... What's the betting there's a "Pope of Mope" in there as well?
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @10:04AM (#355736)
  • "You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @10:18AM (#355737)
  • i would totally wear that hat.
    fut -- Friday September 03 2010, @10:46AM (#355738)
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    • Re:yes! meow by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday September 04 2010, @06:13AM
  • What's with the cat on his beautuful head?
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @11:04AM (#355740)
  • quote of the week on the one show
    "i love animals, they taste great"
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @11:19AM (#355741)
    • Please Don't!!! by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday September 05 2010, @09:16AM
    • Re:katy perry by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday September 06 2010, @07:31AM
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  • And the man the cat is sitting on isn't too bad, either
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @11:42AM (#355743)
  • Out of all the brilliant song titles and lyrics the man has come up with and they STILL stick to the cliche.
    Hello Indie -- Friday September 03 2010, @12:33PM (#355747)
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  • When that man gets a tabby in his bonnet, sooner or later it's bound to leap in among the pigeons.
    goinghome -- Friday September 03 2010, @12:47PM (#355748)
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  • The excerpt everyone will be talking about...
    http://i51.tinypic.com/wbclq8.jpg

    Main pic...
    http://i55.tinypic.com/24lnggm.jpg

    Moz cuddling cat...
    http://i52.tinypic.com/1z4wrcx.jpg
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @01:45PM (#355751)
  • Tim Jonze... (Score:0, Informative)

    ...is now Guardian music editor, so he'll have had a hand in commissioning that piece, as well as the spin-off response to it.
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @02:36PM (#355755)
  • I love it!
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @02:59PM (#355757)
  • They do exist: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2009/apr/09/animal-rights-china [guardian.co.uk]

    I think the poor Chinese are very supply-and-demand orientated. They might catch on quicker than other countries to better treatment of animals when given the chance, but the recent record isn't impressive.

    Meanwhile, the flippant assumption that Filipino slave girls are willing narcotic trays incarnate? Hello?!

    goinghome -- Friday September 03 2010, @03:43PM (#355763)
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    • Re:Chinese animal activists by hand in glove (Score:1) Friday September 03 2010, @04:49PM
      • Maurice below pointed out that while words are merely spoken and printed, living creatures are being skinned alive. Morrissey was referring to a documentary about this practise widely accepted as taking place far more gratuitously in China than in any other country. The near-global slaughter of animals for food in all countries is not being debated, but it is a fact that the Chinese appear to obtain much of their flesh or fur for consumption in a way that entails more suffering and inter-species betrayal.

        Understanding the pressures of such a large country to compete internally and with the rest of the world partly helps to explain the anomaly. It's all rather poignant considering the past noble culture of the country in this respect, a history which nevertheless offers great hope:

        "China was a major center of Buddhism and the founding state of Taoism, two nature-oriented philosophies that promote vegetarianism and low-impact living.

        However, the situation in modern China is quite different.

        In recent history many Chinese people were too poor to afford meat, and today they have grown up and/or had children of their own.

        Back with a vengeance, they are almost literally munching on any little critter they can get their hands on.

        This explains the lack of overt vegetarianism and the quizzical looks you may garner when you finally get your message across..." - http://www.vegetarian-china.info/#history [vegetarian-china.info]

        goinghome -- Saturday September 04 2010, @09:54AM (#355868)
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  • Would this have been a story at all if Morrissey had described the Taliban as a sub-species for their treatment of women?
    Dixey -- Friday September 03 2010, @03:57PM (#355767)
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  • I can't wait to read it! I just wonder why the interviewer is using Big Mouth Strikes Again for the title. What a cliche! Again, and again, and again... When will they stop using the past to talk about Morrissey? Boring!!!!!!!!!!
    Gejo -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:02PM (#355769)
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  • Thank you for posting this amazing photograph.

    It is beautiful.

    Je t'aime Morrissey . . .

    IX
    Piccadily -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:05PM (#355770)
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  • What has this (what Morrissey said) got to do with racisism? It IS subhuman treatment of animals. Please do your research. Google's a good starting point. Have a look at some evidence and then decide is it subhuman or not. You'll be crying in 5 minutes time.
    I'm glad somebody's speaking out.
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:06PM (#355771)
  • I think that it is completely admirable and heroic that Morrissey remains 1000% committed to the well being and protection of animals, and animal Rights. I have never encountered anybody in my whole life who consistently maintains their views on this subject. The fact that Morrissey loves animals, and the fact that he puts them first and foremost at all times … at all times, with the integrity and levels of love and compassion for them that he does, is just one of the thousands of millions of reasons that I put Steven Patrick Morrissey number one to me in the endless list (which is timeless, ageless) of the most loving, loyal, limitless with regard to the levels of consistency that he displays just yet another time – to me again.

    Again

    And I Love him

    With Love, with Kate, with Sebastien, and with BrummieBoy

    Kate2828 -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:08PM (#355772)
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  • Morrissey said in a statement tonight:

    "If anyone has seen the horrific and unwatchable footage of the Chinese cat and dog trade – animals skinned alive – then they could not possibly argue in favour of China as a caring nation. There are no animal protection laws in China and this results in the worst animal abuse and cruelty on the planet. It is indefensible."

    When will the media understand that Morrissey will not back down in his defense of animals.

    Ever.
    mozmic_dancer -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:14PM (#355774)
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    "I am the fun and the fair, on a Mozsite for the criminally insane..."
  • While it is certainly legitimate to condemn this type of cruelty to animals as a serious flaw in Chinese culture, it makes no sense to bring race into the matter. Morrissey's comment about the Chinese being a "sub-species" is bizarre and offensive.
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:17PM (#355775)
  • "...Surprisingly, a rant about the music industry develops into a very touching statement about his band, talking almost paternalistically about his responsibilities and loyalties. The tone of voice reminds me of a recent email he posted to a Mozzer website, a tender and poignant citation for a girl who wasn't much more than a regular face in the crowd at his concerts, but whose devotion and death had clearly touched him. In fact, he talks movingly about all his fans, as if they were blood relatives, or even something more intimate..."

    Aw! So there is still a particular band, and we're always on his mind. ; )
    goinghome -- Friday September 03 2010, @04:45PM (#355777)
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  • Is that were my cat has been?
    Mozhitsback -- Friday September 03 2010, @07:18PM (#355786)
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  • Does Morrissey like Chinese food?
    Anonymous -- Friday September 03 2010, @07:39PM (#355789)
  • A note for Morrissey, next time he wants to describe other nations and it's people as subspecies, Fanta contains gelatine (an animal by product). Yet one more example of Morrissey and his hypocrisy.

    Seriously Morrissey, just go into retirement and take your reissued with a tacky badge singles and albums with you. Your whining, offensive diatribes and most of all your increasingly racist Little Englander bile is all so utterly boring and tiresomely now predictable.

    You remind me more and more of Brigitte Bardot who died a bitter and twisted fascist reactionary who cared more about animals than human beings.
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @01:28AM (#355803)
  • Morrissey told our reporter, "I just can't stop thinking about pussy."

    Wish it was my pussy - sigh
    Mrs Slocombe
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @01:29AM (#355804)
  • Thank you, Anonymous poster #355764 for the link to the BBC program Moz was referring and reacting to (which is really a portrait of Sir Paul and Heather Mills McCartney reacting to footage of animal death and mistreatment in China for the fur industry).

    The whole Guardian article is not about this at all, but since there is so much discussion about the latter part of the statement (esp. in the forums), the full actual statement by Moz should be brought to light, imho:

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    I place the responsibility of Moz's statement on the BBC because it's quite obvious many (not just Moz) would have thought or said the same thing after watching that program. There was no other part of the newstory that gave balance, which would have been proper journalism. China is also a vast producer of fake, synthetic 'pleather' made of man-made materials (which is usually cheaper than so-labeled "genuine leather"). One has to wonder why this was not also addressed if it took into consideration its viewers who would look upon the different ethnicity and nationality of the abusers and instantly identify "them, never me." That is the power of media.

    With the omission of balance, though more shocking and compelling, you do take away viewers' choice to make their own minds up over the full situation more critically. I'm quite surprised, actually, given the BBC is usually more thorough than American primetime news. It's quite disappointing.

    China itself being a police state, the government there (who also control media) would unfortunately never allow such a negative thing to air to its own people, who would be absolutely horrified. They are not given the opportunity to even be aware much less say, "Did you see the thing on the news..." If it did, would the millions of Chinese vegetarian buddhists be able to stop it? Probably unfortunately not. What would stop it is for consumers throughout the world to stop supporting the fur and leather trade, wherever it is (does leather and fur only come from China? Really now) and wherever it goes (frankly, the local mall of all of us, unless we live in an isolated vegetarian commune).

    Imho, addressing the fur/leather industry directly as non-consumers would be more effective than expecting animal protection laws to materialize there (when Chinese women don't even have reproductive rights over their own bodies, organs are taken from prison inmates, etc. etc.). It's a different reality there, and there's a reason why so many leave or at least want to. The average caring person in China is kept ignorant about certain things and has learned by force to deal with other imposed circumstances. There has undeniably been an economic tradeoff for their compliance. That is capitalism, which we can and do affect.

    Something pro-active might be to let fashion/toy business owners/clerks know that you prefer buying synthetic or cotton-made clothing and toys and that you don't think it's really in style anymore to wear real fur or leather (and perhaps not sanitary for any toys to include real fur or leather). And put your stinkiest face on when you say "leather" or "fur." There really are goods that are not shipping anymore, just due to the poor economy, so if there's ever a time this would have an impact, it would be now.

    That's just a suggestion that I think would more properly address the situation than equating Moz's statement (including his most recent shared in the forums, p.12, Thank you, Voodoo Doll) to racist views against Chinese as a people and comparing ourselves and our beliefs/biased views with that.

    That said (whew!)... the article was quite a delight to read, imho. I agree with Mozmic Dancer, the bit about M's heart for his band and fans is really nice and Armitage really missed the mark by not sharing quotes from that.

    A good chuckle from these parts:
    Armitage: "While trying not
    romeogirl -- Saturday September 04 2010, @01:53AM (#355805)
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  • "You don't need to be immersed to understand. And if you do take on a relationship you have to take on another person's family and friends and it's… really too much. I'd rather not. You find yourself working overtime at a factory to buy a present for a niece you can't stand. That's what happens when you become entangled with other people." The niece part cracked me up laughing :) x
    HyldaBaker -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:06AM (#355806)
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  • haven't we heard lot of this before

    Perceived racist comments - Madstock NME 2007 etc etc..

    Refusal to allow photos to be published - Record Mirror 1987 ( mind you is it any wonder if he was wearing gold trainers and red polo shirt!)

    Comments on how he like singers for standing alone in spotlight and also not wanting to live with anyone

    Rather see him in media than not and he will be sorely missed when he packs all this in. Must be saving all good stuff for his autobiography which he keeps saying is nearly done

    New bits picked up - lives in Switzerland some of time - love of band/fans
    Bradder68 -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:22AM (#355808)
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  • self sabotaging your career on the verge on the EMI re releases, no one in the music industry is going to touch you with a bargepole, you can forget your faber and faber book deal as well
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:25AM (#355809)
  • This is a truly disappointing statement. Who the fuck does he think he is to judge people he never had any contact with?

    No matter what Chinese eat, whether it is dogs, cats, cows, horses, snakes, sharks, monkeys, Tony Blairs, Rocco Siffredis... there is basically a good reason to it it: HUNGER. It is one of the most populated country in the whole world, and it's been chronically subject to starvation for centuries,, and this is how they develop a cuisine that included that many ingredients, including some insects... as well as the 1st gastronomy in the world.

    Something that ignorant fools such as Morrissey, who never had anything but the issues of the rich to deal with - depression, neurosis, the luxury to chose your food and your hairstyle, is unable to grasp. Because even when you were poorly sitting in your bedrom in Stretford, you were probably richer than most Chinese, now.

    Cats or dogs are animals. We are human. If you are a meat eating human, you are entitled to eat any animals you encounter. Some might find it violent or horrific, some may just find it good. Period.

    So Morrissey, stop judging people from your five-star hotel. I met you once in Roma at the Hotel de Russie. That's where you belong now, and you are clueless about what happens in the gutter of the world.

    Retired Whore
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:32AM (#355810)
  • Anyone with half a brain knows what he meant, of course, but Moz too must realise that using such a word charged with Nazi and racist connotations was undoubtedly silly. Now people are talking more about the comment, rather than the barbaric treatment of animals. But let's all grow up, people are allowed to make silly comments...who wants to live in an anodyne world where no one says anything interesting for fear of giving offense?
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:33AM (#355811)
  • That's actually quite funny actually as we're all a subspecies of some species...not sure that's what Morrissey meant though!
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:46AM (#355815)
  • Surely we are all falling into Tim Jonze's cunning trap? He got even with Morrissey by using perfectly legitimate criticisms and then having his columnists spin them to try to reignite the boring race row. I'm surprised we haven't heard from the lopsided mouth of the Quantickcunt too. Now everyone here has fallen into the same trap. Jonze is an odious, talentless cunt who will be forgotten in a couple of years. Moz is a God whose records will continue to be played in hundreds of years. Let's not play it the Jonze way, kids?
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:50AM (#355818)
  • Morrissey continues to be a remarkably daunting character. I think Simon Armitage said it better than most when it comes to the fate of the interviewer:

    "Then he [Morrissey] gives a little bow, a modified version of the one I've seen him give about a thousand times on stage, one foot forward and the other behind, head low, eyes to the floor. It's a bit like being greeted by a matador: the gesture of respect is genuine, but we all know what happens to the bull."

    That about sums up the game here. We all enter the ring with Morrissey, and only a few lucky persons come out unscathed.

    Of course everyone is going to talk about his unfortunate comment regarding the entire population of China. It is both defensible and indefensible. On the one hand, whenever I see anything like the horrific, brutal, unbearable torture of living creatures in the YouTube clips, the first thing that comes to mind is that no human could do this to another living creature; it is inhumane to say the least and (I'd like to think) inhuman as well. This goes for people of all nationalities: I don't care where you're from, if you're torturing animals you're a monster completely lacking compassion or mercy who should not be walking upright. Full stop.

    Where Morrissey made his mistake was in his usual hyperbolic language, but he has said more than once that he feels he must overstate his case to get his point across. Unfortunately, people are focusing on his words rather than the horrific practices to which he is trying to draw attention.

    As for the rest of it, the interview made me laugh out loud and feel rather alienated in equal measure - something Morrissey has been increasingly good at. He lacks the easy charm of yesteryear, but he certainly hasn't lost his ability to baffle.

    I agree with several posters above - why not print Morrissey's comments about his fans? This is not only a bit of an unnecessary tease, it is leaving out an important part of the picture. Morrissey reserves the best part of himself for his audience; leaving out these comments is only giving us part of the picture.

    Actually, I think the most callous thing that Morrissey said was "Two r's and two s's." That's completely uncalled for.

    Anaesthesine -- Saturday September 04 2010, @02:52AM (#355819)
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  • Cat comments (Score:3, Interesting)

    I thought my agent said I'd be The Cat in the Hat not The Cat as the Hat
    orlando -- Saturday September 04 2010, @03:44AM (#355824)
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  • "You find yourself working overtime at a factory to buy a present for a niece you can't stand..."

    The idea of SPM taking on factory work in order to purchase some Hannah Montana merchandise is too funny for words.
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @03:59AM (#355825)
    • "But I don't believe you need to be stuck in the cut and thrust of flesh-and-blood relationships to understand them. Because if that was the case, everyone on the planet who had been married or in a relationship would be a prophet of some kind, and they're not. You don't need to be immersed to understand. And if you do take on a relationship you have to take on another person's family and friends and it's… really too much. I'd rather not. You find yourself working overtime at a factory to buy a present for a niece you can't stand. That's what happens when you become entangled with other people." "But aren't you lonely?"

      "We're all lonely, but I'd rather be lonely by myself than with a long list of duties and obligations. I think that's why people kill themselves, really. Or at least that's why they think, 'Thank heaven for death.' "

      Mental 'gristle', from a man who's known to have been hugely generous to his next of kin, He's mentioned the distractions and demands of potential in-laws before. Its' often true that a lot of time can be spent trying to please other people only for no one to be really satisfied with the results. In this he is heir to a long line of advocates of civil disobedience, from Buddha and Jesus, through to HD Thoreau http://thoreau.eserver.org/civil.html [eserver.org] , Wilde, King.

      On the other hand, I do remember boxes arriving at Christmas from aunts in California full of wonderful toys, without which our childhood would have been poorer. As children grow up, in my experience, it's much harder to get it right and unless you know them very well, prepare for ridicule in response to your gifting efforts! So I think ultimately it's a question of priorities, like when you're flying in an airplane - put on your own safety belt first, and then choose what you can or want to do regarding the needs of other people?

      goinghome -- Saturday September 04 2010, @12:55PM (#355901)
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  • does morrissey know that fanta isnt vegetarian?
    marib -- Saturday September 04 2010, @04:27AM (#355828)
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  • The cat looks worried. Hope it didn't pee in Moz's quiff.
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @05:07AM (#355830)
  • they seem to be back together. I'm happy for him.
    Lorem Ipsum -- Saturday September 04 2010, @05:29AM (#355834)
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  • Hard to defend (Score:1, Insightful)

    There are many countries in the world where the cultural consensus lags behind the West but the media pays particular attention to the Chinese as China is a rising world power and will of course fall more under the spotlight than neighbouring countries. I was born in China and am a massive Morrissey fan so his statements are troubling for me. Despite the attempts to excuse his comments any comments that generalises 1.3 billion people are at best ignorant and at worst vicious. China is really several countries in one with massive differences in attitudes and lifestyles between urbanites and villagers and between different people from different provinces. To say no Chinese person has any regard for animal rights is not only audacious but almost certainly wrong. There are animal rights groups in China and there are growing numbers of businesses attending to the needs of pet owners.
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @07:31AM (#355844)
  • My first reaction to this item was - great image of Morrissey as an English Eccentric.
      However, having just read Simon Armitage's article and Alexandra Topping's comments in the Guardian I am disgusted with the press once again. It is a typical example of how someone's comments are distorted in order to create some sort of controversy.
    Ms Topping please note Morrissey doesn't call the Chinese a 'subspecies' he says 'you can't help but FEEL that the Chinese are a subspecies" which is something quite different. People may say this is a question of semantics but it it is rather important when you are denigrating someone in public . Furthermore the Chinese do have an appalling record with regard to both animal and human rights . Furthermore, they are one of the world's greatest polluters. Of course noone is allowed to criticise the Chinese - not because that would be deemed racist - but because they are bank rolling the West.
    As for Simon Armitage if he did think 'at the time it was a dangerous thing to say' why include this quote in his article at all? If he is the big fan he purports himself to be why not protect his hero from from himself and exclude it from his article entirely ? Obviously his job as a scummy journalist takes precedence over his duty as a loyal fan.
      Having read his interview it strikes me that the whole episode smacks of revenge a) because Morrissey hates the photographs they had taken together and 'has insisted they will never see the light of day" or b) because Morrissey's eyebrows lifted and fell, uncomprehendingly when he was slipped a Scaremongers CD. Either way Armitage's action is despicable

    Rant over
    orlando -- Saturday September 04 2010, @08:20AM (#355846)
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  • Jake Walters

    they don't seem from 16 years ago

    so it was Jake Owen, the boxer bodyguard he
    was a while sorta 'close' in the 90's
    [1993-1996, thereabouts]

    not much news, more a promo for his upcoming re-released work

    hope the single will do good though
    Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Saturday September 04 2010, @08:41AM (#355848)
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    and the hills are alive with celibate cries
  • Words, just words (Score:2, Interesting)

    Meanwhile living creatures are BEING SKINNED ALIVE!!! Let's all step back and take a reality check, can we?!
    maurice -- Saturday September 04 2010, @08:42AM (#355849)
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  • Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @09:05AM (#355857)
  • He's Chinese isn't he?
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @09:12AM (#355860)
  • Shocking! (Score:1, Funny)

    Morrissey wears trainers? Shock! Gasp! Horror!
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @09:37AM (#355864)
  • Apart from thousands of years of poetry, literature, philosophy, science, world-famous cuisine, renowned cinema, oh, and tea.
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @09:43AM (#355866)
  • China's treatment of animals is completely idiotic. There is a way to use animals humanely for food, and a way to keep them humanely in parks or zoos. There is no excuse for China's willful and obtuse cruelty towards animals, and their wasteful attitude toward endangered species.

    The Chinese treatment of animals and the environment makes me f'ing sick.

    I don't care what kind of soppy liberal fag Morrissey is, he's right about this one.
    Anonymous -- Saturday September 04 2010, @09:50AM (#355867)
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