posted by davidt on Tuesday September 07 2010, @11:00AM
In addition to the Guardian article (currently over 800 comments), the quote was also focused on in many media articles, one of the biggest on The Huffington Post (currently over 2200 comments).

SOUTHPAWmuse sends the link:

Morrissey: Chinese People Are A 'Subspecies' - The Huffington Post

Also:

Morrissey racist? He's just stirring the storm in his proper English builder's tea cup - by Neil McCormick, Telegraph.co.uk. Link from Noel Westlake.
When Will People Realise Morrissey is No Racist? - by Barber, The Music Magazine. Link from an anonymous person.
Morrissey, this joke isn't funny anymore - by Tom Clark, The Guardian
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  • Seems to me (Score:1, Interesting)

    Most of the coverage apart from in the Torygraph and on this website (obviously) is quite critical of Morrissey's ill-judged comment (And rightly so)

    I'm sure with the interviews lined up for Radio 2 and Absolute Radio he'll be able to set the record straight and flatly denying that he is related to Adolf Hitler despite living in Switzerland and probably having a Swiss bank account.

    I'm sure at the time of Mao's cultural revolution if Morrissey was alive he wouldn't be now.

    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 07 2010, @02:39PM (#356137)
    • Re:Seems to me by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 07 2010, @03:03PM
      • Re:Seems to me by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 08 2010, @02:20AM
    • Re:Seems to me by Anonymous (Score:1) Wednesday September 08 2010, @12:22AM
  • ...(*animal abusers) are sub-species." And they are, along with any other animal abusers in the world.

    Idiots are taking his words out of context. Viva Moz.
    MozVegan9 -- Tuesday September 07 2010, @02:53PM (#356140)
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  • Why does Moz do this every time? He has a re-issue single about to come out and a 20th Aniv. album. Why in the hell would he say something so stupid at this time? This isn't the first time he has said/done something foolish right before a tour or album. Get with the program, bro.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 07 2010, @04:23PM (#356150)
  • say anything but....he still stands by himself and his convictions. It has nothing to do with being self centered and looking for a spotlight of controversy. He sheds awareness on touchy subjects and could care less about sales and sell outs. Why do you listen? "you identify" why do you nit pick? "because you care about how he is perceived" Well world and us, if you cannot accept this artist by now, what and where does your love lie? As a person who has been searching for a true, real, and simple life I hate to see any of us ever criticize a life we do not know. Listen, feel, and attribute the things we've learned and the companionship we hold in such high regard as the first and foremost emotion to embody. I've always said to everyone I meet that I am not religious, just be a good person and remember that karma is not real. Be good and true and never expect anything in return in life. We owe a lot to our man and in return we get true passion which is all but nonexistent in any form any more. Please step back and realize that he is still here to say what we feel. In new ways and old we are lucky to know him then and now. So you own every song being rereleased, how many people do you ask if they know him? How many times do they say "who". This is why another compilation is made, for those unaware. Do your job and let him do his. You think you're lonely, stand in his shoes. Now on a good note I can't stop listening to "Lifeguard on Duty" Love it! NOW TO THE NEXT NEW SONGS MY LIFELONG FRIENDS and we are a subspecies of rare endless love. Though where do we unload it. Go out and keep recruiting my family.....truly yours, KV
    Vanetta -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @01:51AM (#356171)
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  • ... how many of the people who attacked Morrissey, lazily quoting his 1984 joke "reggae is vile" (while ignoring the fact he revived reggae label Attack Records), bothered to watch this ...

    http://features.peta.org/ChineseFurFarms/index.asp .... before criticising him on his suggestion that the way China treats animals is less than human?
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @01:59AM (#356172)
  • Well, I think the same of anyone who horribly mistreat and slaughter animals in any country.
    Gejo -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @03:22PM (#356208)
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    • Re:Me too by stevenz_17may1960 (Score:1) Thursday September 09 2010, @07:35AM
  • Lady Gaga has angered animal rights campaigners by flaunting some flesh on the cover of Vogue, according to reports.

    Gaga, 24, who is known for her off-beat fashion style, has posed for the cover of Vogue Hommes Japan wearing a “bikini” made from raw meat.

    But the singer’s latest eyebrow-raising “outfit” has reportedly not gone down well with animal rights organisation PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals).

    President of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk, told US newspaper the New York Daily News: "Lady Gaga's job is to do outlandish things, and this certainly qualifies as outlandish because meat is something you want to avoid putting on or in your body.

    "No matter how beautifully it is presented, flesh from a tortured animal is flesh from a tortured animal.”

    She added: "Meat represents bloody violence and suffering, so if that is the look they were going for, they achieved it."
    Anonymous -- Thursday September 09 2010, @08:17AM (#356220)
    • Re:Now what's he going to say about Lady Gaga's an by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday September 09 2010, @12:04PM
    • "Ludus' concert in The Haçienda club in Manchester on November 5, 1982, filmed by Factory Ikon, showed Linder's confrontational tactics in expressing her sexual politics. Before the concert, Linder and her associates/managers, Cath Carroll and Liz Naylor, a.k.a. "The Crones", Manchester scenesters and creators of the City Life magazine, had decorated every table in the club with a paper plate with a red-stained tampon and a stubbed cigarette. Linder performed in a dress made of discarded chicken meat sewn into layers of black net, while The Crones handed out packages of leftover raw meat wrapped up in pornography. During "Too Hot To Handle", Linder whipped the dress aside to reveal a large black dildo. "Bucks Fizz had just won the Eurovision Song contest. At the end of their song the men pulled up girls' skirts, and that ticked off an outrage in me. Oh no, I thought, it's still going on. At the same time at The Haçienda they were showing lots of soft porn and they thought it was really cool. I took my revenge. I was a vegetarian, I got meat from the Chinese restaurant, all the discarded entrails. I went to a sex shop and bought a large dildo. I didn't tell anybody about it." Meat and tampons were supposed to represent "the reality of womanhood" and the dildo "Here's manhood, the invisible male of pornography. That it can be reduced to this, a thing that sticks out like a toy." [2] "I remember the audience going back about three foot. There was hardly any applause at the end. And that was a crowd who thought: nothing can shock us, we see porn all the time, we're cool. When that happened, when they stepped back, I thought, that's it. Where do you go from here?" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linder_Sterling [wikipedia.org]
      goinghome -- Thursday September 09 2010, @02:20PM (#356225)
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  • Me chinese
    me play joke
    me put cat pee in Morrissey's coke.
    Anonymous -- Thursday September 09 2010, @09:10AM (#356221)
  • Asian Rut (Score:2, Informative)

    Mikhail Goldman, (a.k.a. The Domestic Extremist), who manages almost amusingly to employ unfounded conclusions to argue his chosen hobby-horses, says that otherwise he currently focusses his trouble-making and incitement in the Midlands area; and that his favourite activities are bringing down the system and enjoying a good cup of tea!

    "...Even when examples as stark as the creation of millions of Untermenschen in China to satisfy our consumer demands are raised, we have a tendency to deflect responsibility from ourselves towards obvious bad guys like politicians and CEOs. At a subconscious level we deny our dependence on unequal and abusive relationships because it challenges our sense of ourselves as ethically consistent beings. In an activist scene that emphasises external problems, privilege, the enemy within, is often neglected. It is less challenging and makes us feel better to be attacking the evil Apple corporation than it does to be unpicking our own attachment to the comfort and convenience we derive from the neoliberal economic system. Morrissey’s sporadic outbursts are easily dismissed as thoughtless bigotry or cynical self-marketing. What is harder to dismiss is the enforced brutal poverty of millions of the world’s population that is justified through the idea that they are some kind of “subspecies”; that they are not worthy of the same rights as people in our Me-First World. It is cowardice and ethical inconsistency to reject the former without rejecting the latter. No matter what privileges we might lose if we were to successfully challenge the dehumanising force of global capital, it is a necessary step in undermining a way of life that makes monsters of us all." - http://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/2010/09/diary-of-a-domestic-morrissey/ [ceasefiremagazine.co.uk]

    Here's a fairly intelligent reflection from a writer who,..."Living in Asia, I can absolutely attest to everything Morrissey says about the way the Chinese treat animals. At local Chinese markets you see hundreds of animals stuffed into tiny cages, treated in the most horrific ways, skinned alive, limbs amputated while still alive, tapped for liver enzymes (bears) and much much more. The Chinese, like many Asians, do not treat animals like many westerns do or expect the rest of the world to do and, yes, it is inhumane.

    However.......saying the Chinese are a 'sub-species' doesn't really help the situation, nor is it true. The Chinese, and many other Asians' way of badly treating animals, is a cultural norm and nothing more. It's how they grew up, it's how they have farmed animals for meat, and it's been this way for centuries.

    Animal rights groups are popping up all over Asia, with some Asians (and these include Chinese Asians) desperate to show the rest of their country how animals should be treated. Things are changing but, when you're fighting against centuries of tradition, it takes longer than a few years to change it.

    Morrissey, therefore, instead of spouting off with his usual racist-style remarks when he's angry about something would be better served by doing something about the treatment of animals in China. Funding a Chinese animal rights organization, filming PSAs against the unethical treatment of animals, throwing a concert in China and talking about the ethical treatment of animals - all of those things would have much more of a positive outcome, rather than calling the Chinese a 'sub-species'.

    Seriously, Morrissey,"Such a Little Thing Makes Such a Big Difference:". - http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5771918/is_british_singer_morrissey_racist_pg2.html?cat=9 [associatedcontent.com]

    The Buddhist teacher Thich Nhat Hanh was interviewed by The Guardian while visiting the UK recently: "...[He] talks about capitalism as a disease that has now spread throughout the world, carried on the winds of globalisation: "We have constructed a system we cannot control. It imposes

    goinghome -- Thursday September 09 2010, @02:24PM (#356226)
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    • Re:Asian Rut by dewdrop (Score:1) Tuesday September 14 2010, @08:04AM
  • Why would anyone support PETA and we totally agree, but then embrace a cultural-subspecies that traps a defenseless bull in a ring & tortures this animal? Driving this bull into shear madness, this animal is stabed by 6-7-8 sub-species who then torture the bull to death. This very sub-species of filth then envade MY nation, because left to themselves and their rank culture, they will eat eachother!! We support PETA, but why would one support PETA, then embrace a horrific cultural-subpecies that tortures animals?? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$"Money Changes EVERYTHING" !!! Any Denials???
    mollymmorrissey -- Thursday September 09 2010, @09:04PM (#356232)
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  • The human species IS divided into different races, the three major ones which differ so much genetically that they could be (and frequently are) classed as sub-species by both anthropologists and genetic scientists. These being mongoloids, negroids, and caucasians.

    So technically Mozzer is right the Chinese (as the foremost representatives of this mongoloid branch) ARE a sub-species, as are Blacks (negroids or congoids) and White people (caucasoids) of whom Morrissey is a shining example. Can't see that anything Mozzer said is enough to trigger ANY comment really even amongst the most neurotic "anti-racist"........
    Anonymous -- Friday September 10 2010, @07:04AM (#356235)
  • sory for Morrissey.

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Because, of course, skinning a cat alive or cutting off an animal's limb when it is alive and having no aninmal welfare legislation so that these and other such abuses are cultural and endemic - it's all, what? Well worth getting offended on behalf of the Chinese - and it will be the overwhelming majority - who condone such appalling practices?

    Yeah - right on brother/sister. Let's get offended by someone saying "You can't help but feel ...".

    Not - "I believe that all Chinese people are a subspecies", but, "You can't help but feel". All those idiots calling racist are too thick to spot that Morrissey's remarkes were an instinctive, visceral reaction.

    You know that they are human - but you can't help but feel that they are a subspecies.Yes, I can't help but feel. That feeling may be fleeting or short-lived, but it's there, along with disgust and revulsion.

    Like the Nazis, the IRA, Islamist suicide bombers, rapists and every meat eater alive - I know, rastionally, that they aren't a subspecies... but you can't help but feel.

    Kissmyshades
    Anonymous -- Thursday September 16 2010, @01:00PM (#356538)
  • Don't call me a troll...I've been here for years and was making a self deprecating joke along with a decent point. It's so easy to remember why I stopped commenting here on most occasions. So serious!

    MP
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @03:25AM (#356176)
  • If this is "insightful", then it is moderation gone mad! What rubbish.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @10:11AM (#356191)
  • Another bitter and "insightful" rant from a twisted "fan". Yawn.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @10:19AM (#356193)
  • I suppose he still does. Do you? The Vegetarian belts are a Bastard to get hold off ;-)
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @12:18PM (#356197)
  • ...boycotting fur. Do you know how many China-made products sold outside of China are made of cat fur?
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 08 2010, @01:06PM (#356203)
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