It’s not about politics

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Vegan Cro Spirit 555

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Yes if someone disagrees with the insane nonsense you believe they must be a bot. How did Trump know the election was going to be stolen a year ago? If he did why did he never show proof?
Morons on Facebook were posting, "if you can wait in line to get a driver's license, you can wait in line to vote!" They were trying to stop voting by mail, even though absentee ballots have been an option forever, and the best excuse they could come up with was, "you have to wait in line for other things!"
To quote bhops, "LOL."
He was the worst President in memory and a disgrace to the office. Most of you don't live in the US anyway. And when you run out of things to copy/paste and have to write an original idea all you can come up with is "bot."
Sad!


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Fake C you are a 100% bot, everyone on this board know it FFS:blushing:
 

The_Beginning

Well-Known Member
Yes if someone disagrees with the insane nonsense you believe they must be a bot. How did Trump know the election was going to be stolen a year ago? If he did why did he never show proof?
Morons on Facebook were posting, "if you can wait in line to get a driver's license, you can wait in line to vote!" They were trying to stop voting by mail, even though absentee ballots have been an option forever, and the best excuse they could come up with was, "you have to wait in line for other things!"
To quote bhops, "LOL."
He was the worst President in memory and a disgrace to the office. Most of you don't live in the US anyway. And when you run out of things to copy/paste and have to write an original idea all you can come up with is "bot."
Sad!
Bot.
 
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Vegan Cro Spirit 555

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@The_Beginning the reason you're really not a danger to anyone is because you're stupid enough to believe the election was stolen despite the fact that Trump was trying to plant this idea a year before the election actually happened and went so far as to try to shut down the United States Postal Service to stop people from voting him out of office.
If the FBI did assign someone to pay attention to your "thoughts" it would be pretty easy money, kind of like getting paid to watch cartoons all day but eventually they probably would crack up from the sheer insanity.


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WTF Fake C???? what does this psycho babble mean??????o_O
if someone is stupid enough to believe the election was stolen is not dangerous???🤒
how about the peeps that thought the Russians stole the election from Shrillary? Not dangerous???

you cant be dangerous if you think the election was stolen?????? WTF???:crazy:
 

The_Beginning

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I can hardly believe that this four-year-old article is real.

"Surely there is a hypothetical scenario in which a U.S. president might be widely and rightly considered illegitimate. Perhaps the discovery of ballot boxes full of hundreds of thousands of fake ballots, which if subtracted from the vote total would have swung the outcome."

 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
Well, your sarcasm is misplaced - because there's no reason that they'd spend 3 years trying & failing to prove something unless there was enough scrutiny of the process & the evidence to make it closer to the truth than a QAnon podcast verified by literally nothing.
You really need to take a deep dive into this because they had zero, nothing, nada. Even Strozk in his initial 302 of Flynn and in texts to Lisa Page couldn't see any evidence. It was done to destabilize a presidency and shoot a conspiracy theory straight into the veins of half the western world. And by the looks of it, it worked.
 

The_Beginning

Well-Known Member
FYI...

If things go down in the next few days, keep in mind what we were told over three years ago. We will soon see if hard proof comes out. For now, there are some key things here:

-Trump was never himself going to speak or order military action. Any action that would occur necessarily had to be after he was out of office and the illegitimate President (Biden) was sworn in
-"former President"--->Trump could/would never have carried out this operation while in office because it would look like he was carrying out a military coup to serve his own interests, and the media would be able to dominate the narrative quite credibly as a result
-the military was only ever going to act once Biden was sworn in (the condition of the illegitimate President being knowingly installed on a fraudulent basis)
-the only method of dealing with this corruption was the military. President Trump helped to set the stage before standing aside to allow the fraudulent "transition" to the Biden administration, which was really the trigger for the transfer of power to the military
-the fourth post enacts Trump stepping aside after his first term and leaving the operation solely in the hands of the military; the fifth post depicts the transition from Trump to the military (Q Clearance Patriot)
-11.3 etc. are military provisions, as explained in the X22 Report video posted yesterday. Those markers will be associated with hard proof

IT'S NOT ABOUT POLITICS

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ForgotHowIGotMyName

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The thing about the Russia conspiracy theory was that it was just not all that compelling, and its followers really had nothing to gain for themselves or for the world. It was propelled by nothing but hate for the Orange Man. The followers of the conspiracy theory did not care about truth or justice. They just cared about destroying the Evil Orange Man at all costs and having Mike Pence assume office because that's, like, so much more progressive, yo. They swallowed absolutely any unhinged nonsense that was peddled by Rachel Madcow and believed any and all empty claims by Adam Schiff et al. that there was a mountain of evidence about to be revealed.

As for Q, even if it turns out to be a nothingburger (which most people who follow it are fully capable of entertaining, unlike with the Russia hoax), it was always fuelled by a desire for truth and justice. It was not fuelled by irrational hate for a scapegoat. People have been drawn to it largely because of a genuine desire to see truly bad, corrupt, and sick people like Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton brought to justice.

I think QAnon was a psyop designed to draw support away from the Alt Right.

How much of a role the Alt Right played in getting elected in 2016 is debatable. But it is was always the case that with the MSM against him, he was always going to be dependent on a strong online fanbase to counteract it.

For Trump, there were a couple problems with the Alt Right. First, the Alt Right was prone to various public relations disasters like Charlottesville (I don’t think it’s a coincidence that QAnon emerged shortly after Charlottesville).
Secondly, the Alt Right’s support of Trump was always conditional on Trump fulfilling his campaign promises (mass deportations, end to birthright citizenship, etc) and when he started cycling on those, a lot in the Alt Right started to turn on him.

Do what the Trump administration did was create their own Alt Right. A “safe” Alt Right with “safe” enemies. Instead of Jews and non-whites, the villains were pedophiles, communists, and China, people boomers could feel OK about hating.

And more importantly, QAnon encouraged unconditional loyalty for Trump. If Trump does something you don’t like, if he starts chucking yo the globalists, don’t freak out, it’s all part of the plan. It’s 800-dimensional underwater space chess. Trump’s cucking is actually proof of how based he is.

I’ve heard a couple different theories as to who Q is.
I’ve heard that a couple of YouTuber created Q and supposedly there was one time on a live stream that the guy accidentally showed himself logged into his Q account. I’ve also heard that he is some Jew in the Department of Defense.

Both could be true. It could have been started by one person and then taken over by someone in the Trump admin.
I think the Trump admin had some involvement with it but that doesn’t make it “real”. It was a psyop to a) draw support from the Alt Right and b) intensify the morale and unquestioning loyalty of the Trump base.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

Well-Known Member
FYI...

If things go down in the next few days, keep in mind what we were told over three years ago. We will soon see if hard proof comes out. For now, there are some key things here:

-Trump was never himself going to speak or order military action. Any action that would occur necessarily had to be after he was out of office and the illegitimate President (Biden) was sworn in
-"former President"--->Trump could/would never have carried out this operation while in office because it would look like he was carrying out a military coup to serve his own interests, and the media would be able to dominate the narrative quite credibly as a result
-the military was only ever going to act once Biden was sworn in (the condition of the illegitimate President being knowingly installed on a fraudulent basis)
-the only method of dealing with this corruption was the military. President Trump helped to set the stage before standing aside to allow the fraudulent "transition" to the Biden administration, which was really the trigger for the transfer of power to the military
-the fourth post enacts Trump stepping aside after his first term and leaving the operation solely in the hands of the military; the fifth post depicts the transition from Trump to the military (Q Clearance Patriot)
-11.3 etc. are military provisions, as explained in the X22 Report video posted yesterday. Those markers will be associated with hard proof

IT'S NOT ABOUT POLITICS

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Bro, let’s say that Trump DID have a plan. What would be the point of telling people about it? His supporters are not in a position to aid him in this plan but it WOULD tip off enemies who are in a position to stop him.
 

Nerak

Reverse Ferret
You really need to take a deep dive into this because they had zero, nothing, nada. Even Strozk in his initial 302 of Flynn and in texts to Lisa Page couldn't see any evidence. It was done to destabilize a presidency and shoot a conspiracy theory straight into the veins of half the western world. And by the looks of it, it worked.

They didn't have nothing - they didn't have enough to prosecute.

 

The_Beginning

Well-Known Member
I think QAnon was a psyop designed to draw support away from the Alt Right.

How much of a role the Alt Right played in getting elected in 2016 is debatable. But it is was always the case that with the MSM against him, he was always going to be dependent on a strong online fanbase to counteract it.

For Trump, there were a couple problems with the Alt Right. First, the Alt Right was prone to various public relations disasters like Charlottesville (I don’t think it’s a coincidence that QAnon emerged shortly after Charlottesville).
Secondly, the Alt Right’s support of Trump was always conditional on Trump fulfilling his campaign promises (mass deportations, end to birthright citizenship, etc) and when he started cycling on those, a lot in the Alt Right started to turn on him.

Do what the Trump administration did was create their own Alt Right. A “safe” Alt Right with “safe” enemies. Instead of Jews and non-whites, the villains were pedophiles, communists, and China, people boomers could feel OK about hating.

And more importantly, QAnon encouraged unconditional loyalty for Trump. If Trump does something you don’t like, if he starts chucking yo the globalists, don’t freak out, it’s all part of the plan. It’s 800-dimensional underwater space chess. Trump’s cucking is actually proof of how based he is.

I’ve heard a couple different theories as to who Q is.
I’ve heard that a couple of YouTuber created Q and supposedly there was one time on a live stream that the guy accidentally showed himself logged into his Q account. I’ve also heard that he is some Jew in the Department of Defense.

Both could be true. It could have been started by one person and then taken over by someone in the Trump admin.
I think the Trump admin had some involvement with it but that doesn’t make it “real”. It was a psyop to a) draw support from the Alt Right and b) intensify the morale and unquestioning loyalty of the Trump base.
The truth is that no one likes the alt-right or the alt-left because they are retarded and believe things that are flat earth-level stupid. It really is that simple. You don't need a conspiracy to undermine them: they embarrass themselves constantly. Trump and everyone on the right (and centre) have disavowed the alt-right again and again, while practically no one on the left will disavow the alt-left.
 

The_Beginning

Well-Known Member
Bro, let’s say that Trump DID have a plan. What would be the point of telling people about it? His supporters are not in a position to aid him in this plan but it WOULD tip off enemies who are in a position to stop him.
This is precisely why he didn't tell anyone about it. As it pertains to the specifics of what the post-inauguration operation is, we know absolutely nothing specific. No one knows any details about what exactly is happening right now, and Q has not been posting since December 8, and most of the information about the end game of the current operation was provided back in late 2017 when Q first began posting. It has become clear that Q started with the end of the operation at the beginning of the posts. In terms of specifics, all we know is that the only option for this operation all along was the military, and a handful of military provisions that would come into play, but no specific timeline was provided aside from stating that Trump would be on the sidelines when things went down, which people generally did not previously realize meant being out of office. Q also asked what condition would need to be met, which we now know refers to the treason associated with knowingly and fraudulently installing an illegitimate president (Biden)—in other words, he would need to actually be sworn in and take office, completing the crime. It is only at that point that the military would have the authority to act.

Do we know what specific actions are to be taken now, and when? Nope. Anything beyond the above is speculation. And, of course, I, and everyone else I talk to and listen to on the topic, consider the possibility that the whole thing could be a psyop, as well as that it could fall through. However, the basic proof that it is not a psyop is that Trump was able to be elected in 2o16. Hillary and her people genuinely thought that she could not lose. They believed that the election was rigged in their favour (foreign interference, etc.) and there was no risk involved. The only way Trump won was that he had inside assistance from military intelligence to safeguard the election against the tactics of these corrupt people well enough for him to get over the line. Was there still a ton of fraud? Yes, and Trump said as much even after winning. Now, why would he have military intelligence backing him and safeguarding his victory in 2016? Because, they asked him to run.

In terms of what is happening currently (both overtly and covertly), I am withholding judgment as much as possible. I, and most other people, know that the mainstream narrative is a pack of lies. However, is Q legit? We will find out for sure by the end of the month.
 

Nerak

Reverse Ferret
This is precisely why he didn't tell anyone about it. As it pertains to the specifics of what the post-inauguration operation is, we know absolutely nothing specific. No one knows any details about what exactly is happening right now, and Q has not been posting since December 8, and most of the information about the end game of the current operation was provided back in late 2017 when Q first began posting. It has become clear that Q started with the end of the operation at the beginning of the posts. In terms of specifics, all we know is that the only option for this operation all along was the military, and a handful of military provisions that would come into play, but no specific timeline was provided aside from stating that Trump would be on the sidelines when things went down, which people generally did not previously realize meant being out of office. Q also asked what condition would need to be met, which we now know refers to the treason associated with knowingly and fraudulently installing an illegitimate president (Biden)—in other words, he would need to actually be sworn in and take office, completing the crime. It is only at that point that the military would have the authority to act.

Do we know what specific actions are to be taken now, and when? Nope. Anything beyond the above is speculation. And, of course, I, and everyone else I talk to and listen to on the topic, consider the possibility that the whole thing could be a psyop, as well as that it could fall through. However, the basic proof that it is not a psyop is that Trump was able to be elected in 2o16. Hillary and her people genuinely thought that she could not lose. They believed that the election was rigged in their favour (foreign interference, etc.) and there was no risk involved. The only way Trump won was that he had inside assistance from military intelligence to safeguard the election against the tactics of these corrupt people well enough for him to get over the line. Was there still a ton of fraud? Yes, and Trump said as much even after winning. Now, why would he have military intelligence backing him and safeguarding his victory in 2016? Because, they asked him to run.

In terms of what is happening currently (both overtly and covertly), I am withholding judgment as much as possible. I, and most other people, know that the mainstream narrative is a pack of lies. However, is Q legit? We will find out for sure by the end of the month.

Q was just a bunch of YouTubers lying to get followers.

 

Nerak

Reverse Ferret
They had a great big nothing f***ing burger.

There was evidence that Putin knew what he was doing, evidence that some of Trump's team likely knew what they were doing, but no evidence that Trump wasn't just a complete idiot.

Putin squirming is priceless.

 

The.Truth.

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According to Mr. Trump’s latest financial disclosure report, filed with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, he owes at least $135 million to a smattering of small financial institutions such as Ladder Capital. His biggest creditor — to whom Mr. Trump owes well over $300 million — is Deutsche Bank. From 2012 through 2015, the scandal-plagued German bank lent Mr. Trump money for his Doral golf resort in Florida ($125 million), his hotel in Washington ($170 million) and his skyscraper in Chicago (at least $45 million).
Why on earth would Deutsche Bank have lent hundreds of millions to Mr. Trump given his track record of stiffing his lenders, including Deutsche Bank itself?

Another, related claim is that after Deutsche Bank made the loans, it sold chunks of them to Russians. It is common for large loans to be syndicated or securitized — in other words, chopped up and sold to investors. In the late 1990s through the mid-2000s, Deutsche Bank did this with some of its large loans to Mr. Trump.

Under this theory, the president would owe the money to Russians, not the German bank.

There is a certain logic to this. Russians interfered on Mr. Trump’s behalf in the 2016 election. Deutsche Bank is the only mainstream financial institution that’s been consistently willing to do business with Mr. Trump. And Deutsche Bank for decades has had close ties to Russia and has facilitated money laundering for wealthy Russians.

But the theories don’t hold up.

Deutsche Bank didn’t chop up and sell the latest batch of debt — the only portion that is still outstanding, according to bank officials with direct knowledge of the transactions. The loans remain on Deutsche Bank’s books.

It is true that Deutsche Bank was willing to lend to Mr. Trump when few others would. But there is an explanation. To overcome the bank’s wariness, Mr. Trump agreed to personally guarantee most of the debt on all of the loans. That meant that if he defaulted, Deutsche Bank could seize his personal assets, as The Times has previously reported.

The result was that the loans would generate fees and interest payments for Deutsche Bank but would entail little financial risk.

Deutsche Bank remains a vast repository for Mr. Trump’s financial secrets, and the president’s lawyers have spent more than a year fighting against congressional subpoenas for the bank’s records related to Mr. Trump. It is not impossible that evidence will emerge that muddies this picture.

For now, though, it isn’t very complicated.
 

The.Truth.

Well-Known Member

"One reason for all the confusion: Trump’s loans are not fully transparent. It’s still unclear to whom he owes an estimated $162 million against his skyscraper in San Francisco, for example. The loan against 1290 Avenue of the Americas is also something of a mystery. And it’s difficult to pin down the amount the president owes on a loan tied to his Bedford, New York, mansion. When asked about all of this, the Trump Organization did not respond. "


Donald Trump is warning “China will own the United States” if Joe Biden is elected president.
But Trump himself has taken on debt from China. In 2012, his real estate partner refinanced one of Trump’s most prized New York buildings for almost $1 billion. The debt included $211 million from the state-owned Bank of China, which matures in the middle of what could be Trump’s second term.
Steps from Trump Tower in Manhattan, the 43-story 1290 Avenue of the Americas skyscraper spans an entire city block. Trump owns a 30 percent stake in the property valued at more than $1 billion, making it one of the priciest addresses in his portfolio, according to his financial disclosures.
Trump’s ownership of the building received a smattering of attention before and after his 2016 campaign. But the arrangement with the Bank of China in 2012 has gone largely unnoticed. The questions surrounding Trump’s ties to the Bank of China come as his campaign is claiming that Biden would be a gift to the Communist country and America’s chief economic rival.
 
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