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Well judged? (Score:0)
Well judged? Perhaps not.
BOOOOOO radio 1 dj's!! (Score:0)
AND...(i just remembered) the two general twats that were doing the 'in between band commentating' (i think theyre on radio 1) were really spun on their dance music and were going on about how how much mozza's in the media and how he never answers a question.. she seemed annoyed... but who cares?? the've got bad hair!
I just saw 'everyday' and 'irish blood..' on BBC2 (Score:0)
Broadcast Details (Score:1)
BBC 3 (Live)
Don't Make Fun Of Daddy's Voice
Shakespears Sister
BBC 3 @ 10pm (recorded)
The Headmaster Ritual
First Of The Gang To Die
(Subway Train) Everyday Is Like Sunday
Irish Blood, English Hear
BBC 2 @11.20pm
(Subway Train) Everyday Is Like Sunday
Irish Blood, English Heart
It's a pity for our sakes that BBC 2 chose to repeat two songs we'd already seen but I suppose they made sense for people tuning in.
For those not in the UK, BBC 3 is a cable channel that gets about 421 viewers, whilst BBC 2 could command about 2 million tonight. Therefore, BBC 3 has odious presenters you'd happily see eaten by rats whilst BBC 2 has more recognisable DJ's, in this case Mark Radcliffe and Jo Wiley.
Radcliffe, a huge Morrissey fan, spoke highly about Moz after the two songs had been played commending him on talking to the audience a lot (we saw none of this) and bringing "a bit of glamour" to the festival.
The two presenters also agreed that there was a great "sense of occasion" surrounding his appearance, that he "did the job" and that, as far as Radcliffe was concerned, we "could have done with seeing more" in reference to the fact we only saw two songs.
As far as the BBC 3 presenters go, the girl one said that as soon as Morrissey came off stage there was a car waiting with it's door open, a blanket to be put over his knees, and a cup of tea. Apparently he was driven off, holding his tea, laughing. This might be absolute nonsense and I wouldn't trust a word these two sickening wankstains said, the male one followed up with "Watch out for tulips!" You get the idea.
The footage LOOKED wonderful, very professional as you would expect, and the crowd were sort of into it. They certainly cheered loud enough at the end of each song and they had been standing there for hours.
Morrissey looked slightly fed up I thought but it's hard to tell with edited footage and no inter-song banter broadcast.
He did, however, say at the start "I know you're wet and you're cold... I'll try and sing as quickly as I can..."
There might be some negative comments about the gig from those, like me, who only saw the TV footage, but over the past two days the presenters have reviewed performances objectively and it seems from what they said it went down really well.
No idea of the setlist, the first to e-mail FROM Glastonbury should get sent a box of chocolates or something. Or a towell.
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Re:Broadcast Details (Score:2, Interesting)
I'm not the first to email FROM Glastonbury, but I was there, and have just got home.
Last night, in London, my friend told me that he asked the audience whether any of them were going to Glastonbury. "I wouldn't bother" he concluded.
Moz was in the most misanthropic mood I've seen him in. He asked the crowd if they felt cold and miserable - we'd just had a classic Glasto torrential rainstorm - and confided that that was how he felt most days, but for no reason other than the psychological. He promised to get through the set as quickly as possible, and asked whether people could wait until the end of his set before overdosing. He complained about the sound.
That said, what a wonderful performance! He was in startlingly good form.
The rest of Glastonbury was also brilliant: despite the rain, and the fact that I spent most of it playing in a sandpit with my 18 month old son, who pleased all and sundry by identifying pictures of Morrissey and repeatedly claiming that he was his favourite singer, and then showing suitable excitement when Morrissey came on stage.
My top gig was - strangely - the Rutles. Oasis also did their usual glittery act of recreating in power chords the sensation of taking cocaine.
Oh, and I met the guy who introduced most of the acts at Meltdown - the American fellow with the guy fawkes facial hair - and thanked him for helping to curate such a fabulous season.
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Glastonbury shown in entirety at Meltdown! (Score:1)
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Squandered opportunity (Score:0)
But he's really got to realise that for festival gigs he's got to roll out a hell of a lot more crowdpleasers. If we wants to do Smiths songs, do the famous ones he's done in recent years (Shoplifters, Last Night etc).
Solo stuff needed is Suedehead, Ignore Me, etc.
Other big bands do more obscure stuff for their own shows, and crowd-pleasers for the festivals and so should Moz!
He's only signed up to the festivals to try and widen the audience so don't bore them with obscure songs like the cover of 'Candle' that many of even us lot hardly know!
John
Get off the stage! (Score:0)
What was the point of the light up Moz... wasted as it was still light! Would have looked superb if darker.
Moz could't stop fiddling with things!
Alain must have the brain disease as he is taking a long time to heal from his 'illness'.
The band looked uncomfortable.
Boz's short hair cut looks weird!
Deano's drumming really is good - all the nay sayers think again.
S.Sister sounded a bit country and western!
The overdose comment was typical Moz, but not needed.
I am not a Muse fan, but they were the appropriate act to close the headline - only 3 musicians but a loud crowd pleaser.
So you'd think Moz would have pulled something out of the bag.
Moz's refusal to change the set list is starting to annoy me - a very long-term fan.
His attitude towards the media and music industry seems to be extending to his fans.
Oh well, I'll never learn.
He should not do festivals!
glastonbury (Score:1)
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fed up (Score:0)
Time to stop (Score:0, Troll)
who said he should stop is also correct. Go out
with a bang on top Moz. Just like The Jam or The Beatles stop while your on top. How long will it be before the Las Vegas years hit and we have to see a 55 year old Moz making a parody of himself in front of Quiff in the front bald in the back old 80's rockers and Julia Riley in a wheel chair with a respirator on gig 10,572.
How about writing a script & staring in his own movie and doing the entire soundtrack. No more touring. Don't wind up like Bowie on Face lift #3
singing Ziggy at 60.
Stop Now ! Take a dignified place in history
BBC-2 mark 'radical'+jo 'whining!' (Score:1)
have to say he didn't cut the mustard.
he looked tired and fed up.
he was on when it was still light and also i think the crowd needed tunes they all new more,
couple more smiths tunes, suedehead etc, but mozz is mozz.
nice red shirt though.
must say keane sounded good and muse were bloody amazing.
orbital playing their last ever gig, were sheer crap.
haaaaaahaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
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12 years late for Glasto (Score:0)
Its probably true that Morrissey would've gone down better with the Glasto crowd if he'd turned in a few more hits. I'm sure the 5 Moz fans there would have liked to hear Suedehead, Panic, Bigmouth etc. Hits like this tend to please the neutral fan too... but obviously this is not Morrissey's style. He has his current set, and must stick to it. He'll probably say that theses songs are he one's that matter most or something like that... Still it was a by-the-numbers performance.. No-one looked particularly impressed or overjoyed but there was a good cheer after each track.
I don't really think the crowd was there for Morrissey. He always sounds so much better in a small venue. When he played Doncaster dome [which is about as big as a basketball court] the atmosphere was electric. The MEN gig recently was flat in comparison, but not really a bad show.
BTW - MUSE were fantastic. I've never seen them before, and had only ever heard their cover of "Please, Please Please let me get what i want" before. To say they look like 3 gay scandinavian android hairdressers, they certainly know how "to rock". No doubt Moz was rushed home in his motor so he could watch them himself from the comfort of his antique chesterfield, with his cocoa
Glastonbury (Score:0, Troll)
I have to disagree with you all (Score:0)
Sure, the crowd weren't very positive and so forth, but that happens at festivals. It was a slightly muted performance, but that was thanks to the indifferent crowd more than anything. "First of the Gang to Die" sounded fantastic.
broken
Ungrateful People! (Score:0)
Set List anyone? (Score:0)
I came in just as the BBC2 show was starting too. I thought he was okay although Irish Blood sounded pretty horrible. Would have expected Alain back by now if he really was just ill. Mozzer did look a bit pissed off with the whole thing. Like he hates festivals (which he probably does) which begs the question why on Earth he agreed to do it?
Radcliffe seemed to think he was magnificent and wanted to see more than the two songs and although Whiley wasn't as keen she did say something about how great he looked and how it was good that he talked to the crowd.
I thought the 'thank you Julia' thing was quite funny but probably a bit out of place!
A waste of time (Score:0)
Better set list (PS - this was NOT the real set li (Score:0)
FESTIVAL SET LIST:
You're Gonna Need Someone On Your Side/First Of The Gang To Die/Irish Blood, English Heart/The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get/November Spawned A Monster/Bigmouth Strikes Again/Everyday Is Like Sunday/Half A Person/I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday/Suedehead/The Headmaster Ritual/Panic/How Soon Is Now?/Trouble Loves Me//There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
Performed with energy and passion, I believe a set list like that could easily have got the crowd going!
Good Glasto reviews in the press! (Score:0)
I think he should have been on the 'Other Stage'. His songs aren't sufficiently well known for the Pyramid Stage crowds unlike Radiohead, McCartney, Blur etc.
He could have got a headline slot on the Other Stage and played in the dark when the atmosphere would've been so much better.
Oh well, maybe next time!
John
he's not freddie mercury. (Score:0)
well - fuck your friends, if they don't get him now they never will.
also please note, the smiths have split up!
why should he do 'crowd pleasers'? he's not freddie mercury. much of the 'crowd' hated his hits when they first came out and still do.
yes it's a shame the performance looked pretty lacklustre at glastonbury (at least on tv). but the previous night at rfh he and the band were dynamite, one the best shows i've ever seen.
and let's face it, he craps on anything else at glastonbury (muse? come on!!).
Wow, what's with all this negativity? (Score:0)
o-k (Score:1)
That being said, when he played Everyday Is Like Sunday, everyone seemed a bit bored, and only really livened up when he went into Irish Blood English Heart which I think was just proof of what sort of Morrissey fans were there.
Edith Bowman and that Irish cunt are also a class A wankers.
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Just got back from Glastonbury... (Score:2, Insightful)
It struck me that he wasn't enjoying the experience at all. He didn't speak much to the crowd and what he said seemed quite nervous and unfittingly negative ("I imagine you're all feeling quite disgusting..." We're at Glastonbury and the sun's finally come out; we feel great, even if we haven't washed for days! I also thought his comment about how he feels that way every day was a bit hackneyed. However tongue-in-cheek, it played a little too much to the 'Miserable Moz' image).
It was one of the performances I was most looking forward to, being a great fan, and I jumped around and threw up my hands to make up for those who were somewhat non-plussed. I felt, however, that he made little attempt to win the audience - ordinarily, I suppose, he doesn't have to. To me, the set lacked the energy and enthusiasm of the acts I saw over the weekend that are clearly influenced by Morrissey, such as The Killers and The Ordinary Boys. If I, knowing the songs and being so willing to enjoy myself, should say this, you can imagine how it might have gone down with less hardcore fans.
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Morrissey the monkey (Score:0, Troll)
Oh for heaven's SAKE! (Score:2, Insightful)
It wouldn't be appropriate to play lots of Smiths songs - they were all a long time ago. Happily he threw some in including - let's not forget - the fantastic Shakespeare's Sister and There is a Light. People who think he's going to do a 'greatest hits' [oooh ! let's rush out and buy a Morrissey on EMI greatest hits CD kids],is just NOT going to happen. He's not keen on EMI, right? Apart from that he hasn't really had any great hits as such has he? (ooh let's have Suedehead, AGAIN). How demeaning to have a 16 year old track requested time and again when you've got a new album out. The World IS full of crashing bores. They think they can give Morrissey advice about set lists, venues, and even performance HA! HA! HA HA!
They can keep away from Morrissey gigs. But some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something.
I'll still go to the gigs, buy the records and have the time of my life.
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Move? (Score:1)
I must say the best for me to date was the Blackburn Gig for its intimacy and set list.
I thought Manchester was great too though I had seats which took away some of the atmosphere.
I am now debating whether to buy tickets for the Move festival on the 11th.
I was hoping that Moz would play a slightly different setlist at Glasto but it sounds like it was pretty much the same as all the others.
I think that Move will be much of the same and this is where the dilema comes in.
I have enjoyed all the shows but never been to 2 in the same year. I am not sure Moz will be as good outdoors and for the first part of the set I think it will still be light.
I would like to see him change the set list a little for the Move festival. I have no problem with some of the new songs being played as they are great but surely November and Suedehead should be in his festival set. I would drop I know its gonna happen and Such a little thing.
Will still prob get one to see if my concerns prove correct but agree with some other posts on her re set list changes especially for festivals.
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that moz is dead (Score:1)
i think this record and tour are part of morrissey's grand plan to make the transition from cult figure to dearly loved crooner and there's a lot of frustration because of the tension between what he once was, and what he would like to become. he used to be a kind of cerebral, camp, dream of elvis, now he wants to be the anti (not nancy) sinatra. i really think this record and his next will be a watershed. we'll either stick with him, or look for someone new, someone who embodies the physical qualities that are inevitably deteriorating. all the complaints about a lack of energy etc. amount to one thing, not recognising the pursuit of gravitas.
why should morrissey stop performing live when his voice is better than ever? are we fans first and foremost of his youth (or memories of ours) and beauty? or is there something else, something about the words and the voice? anyone embarrassed by morrissey should be ashamed, he was always sneered at by non fans. the now beloved smiths were widely reviled by anyone who wasn't a fan during the 80s. that old moz is dead, long live the new moz.
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Whats all this nonsense about the setlist? (Score:1, Insightful)
Stop moaning (Score:1)
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Lessons to be learned (Score:0)
but he must change things for Reading. it should be dark when he's on there (9ish in late August) and he's got to play at least a few different songs.
normally I think it's nice for him not to encore with a Smiths song but, at festivals, it would be more appropriate. lots of people will be seeing him knowing little about the songs,having been drawn along by the huge NME hype, so I reckon he should play a more representative set of songs to reflect this.
John
Roll on the Vegas years! (Score:2, Interesting)
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Glasto (Score:0)
Morrissey World (Score:0)
If its a greatest hits package you want, go and see These Charming Men or The Other Smiths.
The day I give up on Moz is the day he becomes what you seem to want: his own tribute act.
Quintin (Still can't sign in)
How come no-one's complained about the captions??? (Score:1)
Where's John Peel when you need him???
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ridiculous (Score:0)
And also, did everyone expect Morrissey to have the entire crowd in raptures considering a) there are still a lot of people schooled in NME thinking of 1992 and b) the crowd weren't giving much of a reaction to any of the acts and c) the band are still probably adjusting to the loss of Alain.
I saw the Meltdown show on the 11th - which virtually everyone trashed...and I now look back at the bootleg of that show and I can't see what people are complaining about. All I can say is that some of the crowds on this tour (and also at the RAH last year) are sitting on their hands..
Anony(mouse) (Score:1)
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Melting Down (Score:1)
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Glastonbury Setlist!!! (Score:0)
-Don't Make Fun 0f Daddy's Voice
-Candle to You etc
-There is a light...
-Headmasters Ritual
-IHEB
-First of The Gang To Die
-I Know its Gonna Happen Someday..
-Everyday is Like Sunday
-The song about bike chains (sorry don't know the title!)
-I think there was a new b-side as well?
-World Is Full Of Crashing Bores
I think that was it??? The begining bit from Meltdown i.e the talking northerner was shorter and seemed cut. A funny bit happened when Boz started to play a song on the keyboard and Moz said "Light Boz, Light!" then riped into There is A Light. Did think Morrissey was good, but the band was lacklustre and the crowd WERE bored. Especially after a storming set by Supergrass. He should of done Suedehead or at least The More You Ignore Me.
P.S He did NOT do Shoplifters of the World....
Polly x
The Corwd were bored because it was boring (Score:0)
I think it would be rather fetching for Mozza to be sporting a cap and nice sports ware whilst rapping and pointing at the crowd. Any thoughts?
Hmm (Score:1)
I am seeing him at Reading in August so we will see if he ups his game then.
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Get Of The Stage (Score:0, Troll)
But to be honest 2004 is quickly becoming a disaster, o.k some of the new stuff is passable and I don't expect him to overload his live sets with Smiths tunes but not even the die hards want to hear America, Daddy's Voice and all that other 04 filler that he has shit out his arse.
Suedehead,The More You Ignore Me,Nobody Loves Us,Tommorrow,Playboys etc etc etc would have sounded great at Glasto and would have pricked up the ears of even a brain dead Iron Maiden fan and if he wanted to add the odd swooning tear jerker then Jack The Ripper,Yes,I Am Blind,Trouble Loves Me, Seaside Yet Still Docked would have fitted in just nice.
The boring press interviews, the pompus and dour TV interviews, the lackluster live sets and an album that in 5 years will be seen as a career low. To think Steven you were once really something.
Tony Handcock
Re:Get Off The Site (Score:2, Interesting)
How sad your life must be - thinking that only your opinion is right, and everybody else's is wrong. You want criticisms of the album? It's lyrically poor, musically poor and the themes have been covered time and time again. It's been 7 years since the last album, and Morrissey hasn't moved on at all. And he's done it all better before.
And actually, if I were to meet Morrissey, I would tell him exactly the same. Which would do him more good than sycophants like you.
As I've said below, a discussion board featuring only fawning comments would be boring and pointless, and would not be "discussion" at all. Just because other people have differing opinions from you, it doesn't make them wrong or whining. If criticisms of your beloved Morrissey on here upset you, then don't read them. Simple.
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Glastonbury (Score:0)
Did anyone spot the nod in the direction of Johnny Marr? In the recent Q Special Johnny mentioned that he'd suggested a change to the lyrics of "The Headmaster Ritual" - amazingly Morrisey sang "bruises AS BIG AS dinner plates" at Glastonbury in response to Johnny's comments.
I thought it was a lovely gesture.
David Shaw.
It were all fields round here when I was a lad... (Score:1)
The Smiths never played Glastonbury again, even though MIchael Eavis still claims their performance to be one of his all-time favourites.
What is interesting though is that they didn't exactly play a mixed-audience-friendly set that day either.
They kicked off with 'Nowhere Fast' which wouldn't be released for another 8 months, and the second to last song was 'Barbarism...' which again wouldn't be officially released for another 8 months. The (fairly short) set also included 'Jeane', 'Girl Afraid' and 'Handsome Devil' which were all b-sides from recently deleted 7" singles(this was still 4 months before the release of 'Hatful Of Hollow'), and only two songs, 'Still Ill' and 'Hand In Glove', were played from the, then current, debut album.
So it appears that Morrissey has never really cared for playing his songs to anything other than a fiercely partisan audience.
Why should he care what Muse or Orbital's audience think of him?
As for the footage shown on the BBC, I thought the band played well, and the sound was an excellent mix. Morrissey himself was in exceptional voice.
Scottish presenter Dougie Anderson thought the performance was phenomenal, and couldn't understand why some of the crowd were saying it was crap.
Well, at least Dougie and Mark Radcliffe have some taste.
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Reading Festival...... (Score:0)
5 shows at the wiltern (Score:1)
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Guardian online review of the show (Score:0)
None the less he's quite the showman. with a band dressed as 1950s Soho gangsters and his name up in huge Vegas-style lights: red, to match his shirt. After a slow start which speaks only to the hardcore fan rather than the floating voter, he crashes into the anthems: Every day is like Sunday, and a glorious There is a Light that Never Goes out. He eggs it flamboyantly to the strains of My Way. Regrets.? He's had a few, but then again, too few to mention.'
See it wan't all that bad!
John.
Headmaster ritual... (Score:0)
Setlist for Fetivals (Score:0)
Teachers/I have forgiven Jesus/How can anybody/The world is full/Daddy/shakespear's sister/I am not sorry/I like you/rubber ring/Everyday is like sunday/suedehead/let me kiss you/such a little thing/Glamorous glue/there is a light/I know it's gonna happen/first of the gang/IBEH/
Glastonbury mpegs to download (Score:0)
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Presence (Score:1)
The sheer physical presence of the man should not be underestimated. He prowled, he watched, he had us all on tenterhooks with his between song declarations.
He also sounded amazing - this was the best singing I have ever heard Morrissey perform. There is a real professionalism to him at the moment. Nuanced, controlled but passionate. He has never sounded this good before.
The set was too obscure. I felt the crowd wanted to get into it more but he wouldn't throw them a bone.
Let me Kiss You was absolutely incredible. I Know It's Gonna Happen.. and How Could Anybody Possibly.. close joint second. I think the new album is really suitable for live performance - very anthemic.
The set was far too short. Everybody wanted more. I think the set was a missed opportunity in some ways - but a truly formidable demonstration of his talent and power. As it was, people were entertained but left a little hungry. How it should be, maybe?
One thing is certain. If Moz ever does put together a "greatest hits" set on this kind of form, it will be the single greatest pop music performance of all time. Seriously! At Glasto, I got the sense his band simply hadn't rehearsed enough songs to put this "greatest hits" set together. But in the event, it just gave the impression of an incredible performer holding back a bit.
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