Does Morrissey need a new sound

[dreamchild]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Yes he badly needs a new sound, get rid of the mexican trumpet crap, come back to Britain and get back in touch with your roots morrissey, this is my advice.

 

[Happy Maudlin]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

I would love a crooner album. Morrissey can't really change much and I am satisfied with his aesthetic. His last two albums are the prime example of a musical direction that needs to be diverted from. Take the best from Ringleader (in my opinion Dear God Please Help Me, In the Future When All's Well) and use the sprawling beauty of I'm Throwing My Arms in Paris and lyrics that contain emotional reflection as shown You Are the Quarry. Experimentation is great when its not just for the sake experimentation itself. That type of vanity is found it David Bowie genre-exploration sometimes, but I don't fault Bowie for it because that's how he is. That's not how Morrissey is. So I would like something surprising but I don't want to be shocked by wild shifts of eclecticism. There should be a sense of familiarity that I will respond to fondly and not with boredom. But how I feel will probably be my fault.

 

[death below the stairs]

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I disagree (but then, I seem to disagree with most people when it comes to Morrissey's more recent work ). True, his lyrics have become more minimalist and succinct in the last few albums- the songs are no longer the word-orgies they once were- and the music on YOR wasn't the most complex or exciting, but I personally feel as much urgency and passion in his latest songs as in tracks from, say Your Arsenal or Meat Is Murder. It's different, yes, but not necessarily worse in my view. Maybe I particularly feel this way because I've only experienced Morrissey as an artist in the last year or so, and it's only my opinion, but I genuinely think that the drive, ambition and talent are as strong as ever.

I did mean to say, but had toast on the go, that as any artist ages they tend to simplify their art.
Morrissey has done this to a degree. I still feel he has been lazy though. I didn't mean to say his new stuff is "worse", than his older stuff. There are some fantastic new songs. But in general there is a lackluster element.
Some of the b sides or what ever they are called these days are awful

 

[Worm]

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as any artist ages they tend to simplify their art.

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[CrystalGeezer]

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Awwwww. JJ's back.

 

[Kewpie]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Awwwww. JJ's back.

What are you talking about?

 

[CrystalGeezer]

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What are you talking about?

Worm was quoting James Joyce. It was a joke.

 

[Kewpie]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Worm was quoting James Joyce. It was a joke.

Thank you very much, I didn't realise Finnegan was Finnegan's Wake.

 

[Benedict Arnold]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

^No apostrophe, bitch.

 

[singmetosleep]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

I think some piano tracks would be excellent. The version of I've Changed My Plea To Guilty from Jonathan Ross on YouTube is just sublime. I also like acoustic tracks, so maybe some more of those would be advisable. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE his recent work, but a change of musical direction may now be called for.

 

[DAVIE]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Bring back in Rourke on the bass and Gannon on the guitar and do "Girl Least Likely To" and some of Morrissey's earlier stuff in his next tour, no new sound needed!

 

[Bhoy_least_likely_to]

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I'd like to see him do the crooner album or a more laid back acoustic driven album. As much as I loved YOR he does need to do something completely different.

 

[Anonymous1]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

I wish Morrissey and Richard Hawley would do something together. It'd better both their careers.

 

[murder and desire]

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I wish Morrissey and Richard Hawley would do something together. It'd better both their careers.

They nearly did, Hawley went for an audition with Moz and Moz (wisely) turned him down.
I expect Moz took one look at him and thought, sorry lad NO! (Hawley isn't the best looking man and Moz is, for better or for worse, an aesthete).

I tend to think Hawley is a bit of a bore. I like a few of his songs but it's all a bit limited emotionally- in terms of his singing and song writing.

That said Hawley can come up with some lovely melodies

 

[billy scissors]

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Might just have been JEALOUS

 

[murder and desire]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Might just have been JEALOUS

Of what Hawley's hair lip, his over greased quiff or awful taste in t shirts?

It certainly wouldn't have been his singing, Morrissey voice is his own where as Hawley is always doing an Impression of Frank S.

Anyway, Bully Scissors I know your joking

 

[billy scissors]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Of what Hawley's hair lip, his over greased quiff or awful taste in t shirts?

It certainly wouldn't have been his singing, Morrissey voice is his own where as Hawley is always doing an Impression of Frank S.

Anyway, Bully Scissors I know your joking

I was deadly serious.Hawley has a great look,the less shallow amongst us can surely see that.

 

[billy scissors]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

He's the NEW Morrissey

 

[dailyalice]

Re: Does Morrissey needs a new sound

Bring back in Rourke on the bass and Gannon on the guitar and do "Girl Least Likely To" and some of Morrissey's earlier stuff in his next tour, no new sound needed!

YES to the Rourke bit. Although I also think some heavy piano/crooning/strings is quite attractive.

 

[murder and desire]

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I was deadly serious.Hawley has a great look,the less shallow amongst us can surely see that.

Damn, I thought you may have more about you than that.

When Hawley went for the audition it was in the early 90's, he had never song a word at that point. What on earth would Morrisey be jealous of then or now?
As you well know, Morrissey has managed to change music and had an impact on other artistic mediums,he has been in one of the most important bands the UK has produced, he's become a living legend and still makes interesting music (when he can be bothered), all these years later.

Richard Hawley, was in a Suede rip off band (The Longpigs), done a few solo LPs that are good but nothing special had a song on an advert and he hangs around with rent an over gown student Jarvis.




It's not shallow to make a comment about someones looks or lack of style in the least- thats very 2 + 2 thinking.
I could make a comment back but am utterly bored with the arguments one gets into on these sites

Hawley has had some good songs but they are not as emotionally intelligent,witty or daring as Morrissey at his best, they are not that much better than Morrisey at his worst.
As I say he has barley even found his own voice, he tends to sound like he is aping others- including Moz

How anyone who isn't very myopic can say that Hawley looks good is a joke.
He has a hair lip, no decent facial features, an awful quiff and follows the normal 70s rock dress code.

People will be saying the Longpigs were the best band of the 90s next