Fiona Dodwell: "Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander" (July 15, 2020)

"One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME's clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian."

Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander

One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME’s clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian.

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FWD.

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[Stephen Hofmann]

No, it's not. If you never turn people down it's unlimited. We turn a lot of people down.

Not enough. Not nearly enough.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Yeah and that f***in disgusting, and I’d never say your parents were at fault, or you shouldn’t have put yourself in those positions. Even if I hated your guts I couldn’t say that. But Moz said it, and it’s fine? There’s absolutely no room, not 1 f***in percent of room, to blame anyone else but the dirty f***ers in question. Sometimes I think you lot don’t even agree with the points Morrissey is making, you’re simply agreeing with the man, that kind of blind agreement it’s pretty dangerous like, it has you’s justify all sorts of horrible behaviour, just cos it came out of Mozzas mouth, as if there’s a sense of betrayal in disagreeing with him. It really blows my mind.

Are you saying parents have no responsibility whatsoever for situations their children are in? Should they be allowed to leave them alone? Or take them into nightclubs? Or not educate them?

You accused him of excusing child rape - which he didn't do at all. He wasn't even saying Spacey wasn't guilty.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Which is subversion Karen. They want to exploit countries but not adapt to their culture and beliefs. They don't have that right and it's got them in lots of trouble. Pushing usary and perversions didn't help either

It's subversion to have your own faith?

Which heretics would you be burning?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Not enough. Not nearly enough.

According to you. That's a political conversation not an objective measure.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

It's subversion to have your own faith?

Which heretics would you be burning?

It's subversion to expect a country to take you in but refuse to adapt to their culture and beliefs. You don't get to just insert yourself into another tribe then refuse to assimilate. This goes back to problems with mass immigration as well but yes Jews have been doing this for centuries which is why over 100 countries gave them the boot

 

[Westboro Baptist]

You live in Madhya Pradesh, India? Fantastic, are the curries nice?

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

According to you. That's a political conversation not an objective measure.

Millions would agree with me.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

It's subversion to expect a country to take you in but refuse to adapt to their culture and beliefs. You don't get to just insert yourself into another tribe then refuse to assimilate. This goes back to problems with mass immigration as well but yes Jews have been doing this for centuries which is why over 100 countries gave them the boot

They were Jewish before we were Christian. We were converted from Paganism. They went from a world that accepted multiple faiths to one that didn't.

That's not subversion. That's persecution.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Millions would agree with me.

And millions more might not.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

They were Jewish before we were Christian. We were converted from Paganism. They went from a world that accepted multiple faiths to one that didn't.

That's not subversion. That's persecution.

That's is subversion Nerak. And yes our pagan heritage's were pretty much wiped out which again makes my point of the consequences of mass immigration and war
And no they didn't go from a world that accepted other Faith's , they went from their lands and asked to be brought into different European and middle eastern countries for survival but refused to fully assimilate. When your tribe is kicked out of over 100 countries it's time to look at why. You telling me all those countries are just evil and hated Jews for no reason? Wrong. Just Jews are some victim throughout history? Nigga please

 

[Westboro Baptist]

Take on Nerak at your peril. Always unswervingly polite, and more often than not, in fact virtually always, absolutely right. Destroying all comers with style. Hats off to you Nerak.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

I don't think Morrissey knew much about the Spacey or Weinstein cases & wasn't making any definitive statements on them. You're damning him forever for chatting. How many people's conversations would survive that?

 

[Moz Fan]

Well done, Fiona!

You understand Morrissey, respect and love him. I do too.

Thank you very much for your coherent, right to the point defence of his political /social stance.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

That's is subversion Nerak. And yes our pagan heritage's were pretty much wiped out which again makes my point of the consequences of mass immigration and war
And no they didn't go from a world that accepted other Faith's , they went from their lands and asked to be brought into different European and middle eastern countries for survival but refused to fully assimilate. When your tribe is kicked out of over 100 countries it's time to look at why. You telling me all those countries are just evil and hated Jews for no reason? Wrong. Just Jews are some victim throughout history? Nigga please

It wasn't mass immigration that made us Christians - it was a process of conversions & then European wars & conflicts & alliances.

It was persecution for not converting.

 

[Westboro Baptist]

There are lots of dodgy men out there. I remember being on a training course, doing admin for this guy that made a weird burping noize. Took me back to his and put on a porno. That wasn't fun. Another occasion I missed the last train out of London and some supposedly kind Asian/Indian old guy that worked there, said "sleep in my office". I had his cock straining at my arse all night....which wasn't much fun at 17.

Perhaps these people detected something about you that you 'may' have been unaware of?

Well at least you learned to accept yourself, and I hope you and your partner continue to live happy and fulfilled lives.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

It wasn't mass immigration that made us Christians - it was a process of conversions & then European wars & conflicts & alliances.

It was persecution for not converting.

Point still stands in regards to Jews. You don't get to ask another tribe to take you in and then refuse to fully assimilate. Pushing usary and perversions and then act a victim when host tribe kicks your ass out

 

[Deleted member 29417]

So far @GodEmperorMorrissey the world Jewish conspiracy is not something Moz has been accused of believing. Could you take this to an Ice Cube forum?

Or, hell, The Labour Party Facebook groups are still engulfed in it. You could join them.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Point still stands in regards to Jews. You don't get to ask another tribe to take you in and then refuse to fully assimilate. Pushing usary and perversions and then act a victim when host tribe kicks your ass out

Everyone moved about in those days. You didn't have nation states with fixed borders, you had Kingdoms that were expanded & contracted depending on war, inheritance & marriage.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

And millions more might not.

More would, than wouldn't...which is why we left the EU.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

So far @GodEmperorMorrissey the world Jewish conspiracy is not something Moz has been accused of believing. Could you take this to an Ice Cube forum?

Or, hell, The Labour Party Facebook groups are still engulfed in it. You could join them.

Neither does your Russia conspiracies but at least mine hold weight. I've yet to hear a good excuse from denier's such as yourself as to why would so many countries kick them out. You can't hide behind the word anti semitism. We're talking over 100 countries. You gotta start looking at why. Even with Hitler's Germany you gotta ask why