Has Morrissey coming out a racist resulted in more fans?

Gregor Samsa said:
This thread was nonsense from the get-go, but who would have anticipated this?! Page after page of reprobates, mentally ill and plain ol' scum exchanging insults with each other. With no sign of stopping.
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You can save them all.
 
Mr. Jackpots said:
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shit,it wasn't meant to be taken that seriously! I just threw up in my mouth a little :lbf:

as for the part about "betraying confidence", so answer me this: do you believe that viva hate was telling the truth when he said everything he said to me was just a lie to find out if I was as sad as I seem or WHATEVER?

if you believe YES that he was telling the truth (when he said he was lying to me to find out stuff) then HOW is my publicizing his lies betraying a confidence? wouldn't his lying to me in order to "find out stuff" be betraying MY confidence first and foremost?! hmmmmmmm?????
 
rifke said:
as for the part about "betraying confidence", so answer me this: do you believe that viva hate was telling the truth when he said everything he said to me was just a lie to find out if I was as sad as I seem or WHATEVER?
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I don't have any reason to doubt her but I can't speak with any authority on what her intentions were or weren't. If that's true, and she was manipulating you to get to know you better, well, OK. Would you prefer to be ignored or not shown an interest on any level? I doubt it. And if there were repercussions from being "duped" by her, all I can say is that's a risk you take when chatting to strangers online. I can say is that I, personally, have never known her to be deceptive except ONCE many years ago when I had not been on this site for awhile and when I returned I was using a picture of a girl I knew as my avatar. Viva, not knowing it was me (we had known each other some time prior) chatted me up online behind the scenes, probably to get to know me and/or get nudes. Then I told him (at the time Viva was identifying as a male) who I was. He felt I'd been intentionally deceptive, and freely admitted he had been, in his motives for talking to who he THOUGHT was a hot blonde chick. We made up and moved on, amicably. So is it possible she manipulated you? Sure. But I don't know and it doesn't change my take on you publicly disseminating your correspondence with her.

rifke said:
if you believe YES that he was telling the truth (when he said he was lying to me to find out stuff) then HOW is my publicizing his lies betraying a confidence? wouldn't his lying to me in order to "find out stuff" be betraying MY confidence first and foremost?! hmmmmmmm?????
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In a way, yes, that behavior would be a betrayal of your trust but that's on a totally different level than spamming somebody's private emails -disingenuous or otherwise- to fellow posters...i.e. somebody chatting you up for the hope of nudes/info/etc. under surreptitious circumstances is different from reading somebody's private letters out loud. Totally different. The former is sneaky; the latter is scummy. If you felt wronged by her, cut ties and move on. Don't air your drama publicly. You asked for my take on it and that's my take on it.

I can't keep repeating myself so I'm going to move on.
 
Mr. Jackpots said:
I don't have any reason to doubt her but I can't speak with any authority on what her intentions were or weren't. If that's true, and she was manipulating you to get to know you better, well, OK. Would you prefer to be ignored or not shown an interest on any level? I doubt it. And if there were repercussions from being "duped" by her, all I can say is that's a risk you take when chatting to strangers online. I can say is that I, personally, have never known her to be deceptive except ONCE many years ago when I had not been on this site for awhile and when I returned I was using a picture of a girl I knew as my avatar. Viva, not knowing it was me (we had known each other some time prior) chatted me up online behind the scenes, probably to get to know me and/or get nudes. Then I told him (at the time Viva was identifying as a male) who I was. He felt I'd been intentionally deceptive, and freely admitted he had been, in his motives for talking to who he THOUGHT was a hot blonde chick. We made up and moved on, amicably. So is it possible she manipulated you? Sure. But I don't know and it doesn't change my take on you publicly disseminating your correspondence with her.



In a way, yes, that behavior would be a betrayal of your trust but that's on a totally different level than spamming somebody's private emails -disingenuous or otherwise- to fellow posters...i.e. somebody chatting you up for the hope of nudes/info/etc. under surreptitious circumstances is different from reading somebody's private letters out loud. Totally different. The former is sneaky; the latter is scummy. If you felt wronged by her, cut ties and move on. Don't air your drama publicly. You asked for my take on it and that's my take on it.

I can't keep repeating myself so I'm going to move on.
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WTF were you doing posting as a chick FFS?:fearful:
whats wrong with you? what you got going?:flushed:

( I doubt anyone would want a nude of that egg shaped bald head :grin:
maybe Barnaby but thats it):smilingimp:
 
Mr. Jackpots said:
I don't have any reason to doubt her but I can't speak with any authority on what her intentions were or weren't. If that's true, and she was manipulating you to get to know you better, well, OK. Would you prefer to be ignored or not shown an interest on any level? I doubt it. And if there were repercussions from being "duped" by her, all I can say is that's a risk you take when chatting to strangers online. I can say is that I, personally, have never known her to be deceptive except ONCE many years ago when I had not been on this site for awhile and when I returned I was using a picture of a girl I knew as my avatar. Viva, not knowing it was me (we had known each other some time prior) chatted me up online behind the scenes, probably to get to know me and/or get nudes. Then I told him (at the time Viva was identifying as a male) who I was. He felt I'd been intentionally deceptive, and freely admitted he had been, in his motives for talking to who he THOUGHT was a hot blonde chick. We made up and moved on, amicably. So is it possible she manipulated you? Sure. But I don't know and it doesn't change my take on you publicly disseminating your correspondence with her.



In a way, yes, that behavior would be a betrayal of your trust but that's on a totally different level than spamming somebody's private emails -disingenuous or otherwise- to fellow posters...i.e. somebody chatting you up for the hope of nudes/info/etc. under surreptitious circumstances is different from reading somebody's private letters out loud. Totally different. The former is sneaky; the latter is scummy. If you felt wronged by her, cut ties and move on. Don't air your drama publicly. You asked for my take on it and that's my take on it.

I can't keep repeating myself so I'm going to move on.
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okay and I listened to your 13 minute blather fest (keep it shorter next time bud :thumb:)
the reason why I was able to do this to viva hate without batting an eye is because he's a deeply shitty person. you don't think for a second I would do that to one of the posters I love and respect and admire, do you? absolutely not. betraying them would be no less than a betrayal of my own self. betraying viva was eh whatever.

and the reason WHY I keep referring to viva as a 'he', is because I DONT believe it's coming from a good place with him. in fact, I don't believe--and he's shown me I have no reason to believe--that ANYTHING he says or does is coming from a good place.

capiche?!
 
here is a good wig look for you. :straightface:
chicks will fly into you:bird:

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its very aesthetic and philosophical :infodeskperson:
 
vegan cro spirit 888 said:
:rolleyes:

Just put a wig on. Pick one out from the rack in KMart FFS:straightface:
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I like being bald, to be honest. I always have. Even before I was bald.

vegan cro spirit 888 said:
you had a good man buddy who you betrayed the trust?:sleepy:
Bummer.:lbf:
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Nah. A woman I used to know.

vegan cro spirit 888 said:
WTF were you doing posting as a chick FFS?:fearful:
whats wrong with you? what you got going?
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I wasn't posting as a chick anymore than I was posting as Zachary Smith a few days ago. It was just an avatar. A picture I liked but not of a celebrity so he quite fairly mistook it as a picture of the poster. It wasn't an intentional ruse as far as I can recall but maybe I ran with it. I don't remember.

vegan cro spirit 888 said:
( I doubt anyone would want a nude of that egg shaped bald head
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Yeah probably not. I'm dad-bod city.

vegan cro spirit 888 said:
here is a good wig look for you. :straightface:


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Not my style.
 
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Wtf crockpot, we know you’re having a crush on Rifke but did you have to make it so bloody obvious? Pinup alert!
 
rifke said:
he said himself it was all lies, so I don't see what it matters. if we actually buy that he was trying to manipulate me in pm's, tell me why I shouldn't have posted them? someone who does that should be outed so that it doesn't happen to someone more vulnerable and gullible. luckily it was all just a joke to me anyway.

tell me, if you're so smart, how come you cant manage to make any of your posts come off sounding the way you want them to; how come the disparity between the way you want your posts to sound and the way they actually sound is readily apparent to everyone who reads them? I mean, if you're so smart?
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He's getting you to repeat yourself and defend yourself. You and Viva already said you were nothing but a couple of low down rattlesnakes. You should have left that out and just kept shoveling dirt on him as fast as you can.
 
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