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[Deleted member 29235]

Today was a rough day for Derek Chauvin.

I'm reading he might go down for forty years. Tough but fair. It won't stop police shooting first and not bothering to ask any questions but perhaps it's a start.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

I'm reading he might go down for forty years. Tough but fair. It won't stop police shooting first and not bothering to ask any questions but perhaps it's a start.

It might slake some thirst for revenge. But ultimately is it not the worst result? It pretty much alleviates the police department itself of any responsibility.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

It might slake some thirst for revenge. But ultimately is it not the worst result? It pretty much alleviates the police department itself of any responsibility.

unfortunately, justice isnt about slaking thirst for revenge. those jurors were intimidated. simple as. in a way i dont suppose it matters because derek chauvin probably wouldnt have had much of a life on the outside.

 

[Deleted member 29235]

It might slake some thirst for revenge. But ultimately is it not the worst result? It pretty much alleviates the police department itself of any responsibility.

So wanting someone who murders another human being to be appropriately punished is 'thirst for revenge?' Really?

 

[nicky wire's legs]

I'm reading he might go down for forty years. Tough but fair. It won't stop police shooting first and not bothering to ask any questions but perhaps it's a start.

oh you mean like in the michael brown case?

america is the most heavily armed country in the world. it's not like in the UK. you cant blame cops in the US for pulling the trigger when they're dealing with people exhibiting erratic behaviour. a second too late and the cops are the ones getting shot.

 

[Deleted member 29235]

unfortunately, justice isnt about slaking thirst for revenge. those jurors were intimidated. simple as.

If you're not too busy, if you could post some credible evidence to back up that assertion I'd be tremendously grateful.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

So wanting someone who murders another human being to be appropriately punished is 'thirst for revenge?' Really?

Yes. What else does it achieve? He’s certainly not going to be ‘rehabilitated’. And the issue of policing in America, gets off the hook. Again.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

If you're not too busy, if you could post some credible evidence to back up that assertion I'd be tremendously grateful.

they were doxed by the new york times. the use of force expert who testified at the trial had pigs blood smeared on his door. maxine waters who should be imprisoned herself said that if he wasnt found "guilty guilty guilty" they would have to take to the streets and become "more active" and "more confrontational" which the jurors had heard so that the judge even had to address it in the court room.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

i mean you actually dont think BLM would make their lives a living hell if derek chauvin was found not guilty?? do you live under a f***ing rock?!?!

 

[Deleted member 29235]

they were doxed by the new york times. the use of force expert who testified at the trial had pigs blood smeared on his door. maxine waters who should be imprisoned herself said that if he wasnt found "guilty guilty guilty" they would have to take to the streets and become "more active" and "more confrontational" which the jurors had heard so that the judge even had to address it in the court room.

So not really intimidated then? You've done your usual trick of just throwing together a few random bits of information and hoping some of it might stick together and look like an argument.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

So not really intimidated then? You've done your usual trick of just throwing together a few random bits of information and hoping some of it might stick together and look like an argument.

you are so unsavoury

 

[Deleted member 29235]

Yes. What else does it achieve? He’s certainly not going to be ‘rehabilitated’. And the issue of policing in America, gets off the hook. Again.

Ian Brady was never going to be 'rehabiliated.' By your rather twisted view of justice I guess he should have been let out? But who are you to say whether or not Chauvin will be rehabilitated?

 

[Deleted member 29235]

you are so unsavoury

How was the samosa, by the way?

 

[nicky wire's legs]

derek chauvin had a laotian wife. he's not a racist.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

How was the samosa, by the way?

im fasting, creep. i can understand why you like the kiddies so much. you share the same level of conversational skills.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

Ian Brady was never going to be 'rehabiliated.' By your rather twisted view of justice I guess he should have been let out? But who are you to say whether or not Chauvin will be rehabilitated?

The thirst for revenge, in Manchester, was somewhat slaked by Brady’s imprisonment. The purpose was served.

 

[The.Truth.]

It might slake some thirst for revenge. But ultimately is it not the worst result? It pretty much alleviates the police department itself of any responsibility.

I can't imagine what point you're trying to make.
"It might slake some thirst for revenge." Most people call a murder conviction justice and not revenge.
"But ultimately is it not the worst result?" Compared to what? What do you believe the best result would be?
"It pretty much alleviates the the police department itself of any responsibility." It seems like you're saying that the police department should be held responsible and that by one individual officer being held responsible they are being let off the hook. I don't think that's true. There has already been a financial settlement. Seeing police convicted of the crimes they commit while on duty is very rare. This sends a message to every police officer that they are not above the law. It's not about just this one officer and this one incident.

 

[Deleted member 29235]

derek chauvin had a laotian wife. he's not a racist.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

I can't imagine what point you're trying to make.
"It might slake some thirst for revenge." Most people call a murder conviction justice and not revenge.
"But ultimately is it not the worst result?" Compared to what? What do you believe the best result would be?
"It pretty much alleviates the the police department itself of any responsibility." It seems like you're saying that the police department should be held responsible and that by one individual officer being held responsible they are being let off the hook. I don't think that's true. There has already been a financial settlement. Seeing police convicted of the crimes they commit while on duty is very rare. This sends a message to every police officer that they are not above the law. It's not about just this one officer and this one incident.

i guess you're not a police officer so you cant possibly understand how much stress one would be under when dealing with someone who might possibly have a gun and be ready and willing to use it on you.

george floyd was a big guy (and super rebarbative). he wouldnt get in the cop car. how else were they supposed to subdue him while waiting for the ambulance? clearly since they had called an ambulance derek chauvin wasnt trying to murder him.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

The thirst for revenge, in Manchester, was somewhat slaked by Brady’s imprisonment. The purpose was served.

the idea of punishment is for the wrong doer to atone and to learn from his actions. it is as much for the sake of the character of the wrong doer as it is for the victim--or at least that's how it should be in a healthy society. revenge should have nothing to do with atonement.