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[Deleted member 29417]

That a black man was shot at point black range by a white cop, the video would’ve received as many plays as the George Floyd, if not more as in many ways it’s more graphic.

Why would they keep replaying it? People had seen it, there was no further developments.

 

[bhops]

Why would they keep replaying it? People had seen it, there was no further developments.

Why keep replaying the Floyd video? Eyeballs and outrage. I'm really amazed that you seem to have zero idea how the media works. And equally amazed that you fail to grasp how much bigger that story would've been if the victim was black.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Why keep replaying the Floyd video? Eyeballs and outrage. I'm really amazed that you seem to have zero idea how the media works. And equally amazed that you fail to grasp how much bigger that story would've been if the victim was black.

They kept playing it because people kept doing things they could report on. Protests. Riots. Right-wingers complaining about it...

 

[bhops]

They kept playing it because people kept doing things they could report on. Protests. Riots. Right-wingers complaining about it...

So just so I'm clear, your belief is is Shaver had been black, blasted at point blank range crawling on all fours in a hotel corridor the coverage would have been exactly the same? LOL

 

[Deleted member 29417]

So just so I'm clear, your belief is is Shaver had been black, blasted at point blank range crawling on all fours in a hotel corridor the coverage would have been exactly the same? LOL

It's the reaction that's different.

Americans did not feel the need to protest.

So the story had no where to go.

 

[bhops]

It's the reaction that's different.

Americans did not feel the need to protest.

So the story had no where to go.

You didn't answer my question. You feel that CNN, MSNBC etc etc would've covered this exactly the same? You feel for instance Don Lemon would've covered this exactly the same if the victim had been Black?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

You didn't answer my question. You feel that CNN, MSNBC etc etc would've covered this exactly the same? You feel for instance Don Lemon would've covered this exactly the same if the victim had been Black?

They put the same emotion into it...

 

[bhops]

They put the same emotion into it...

 

[Anonymous]

The owners of PornHub and Mindgeek aren't Jewish and as far as I can see, BitChute is still up. Perhaps your mother adjusted the parental control settings on your browser. Bless her heart.

Yes they are Jewish.

 

[Verso]

Yes they are Jewish.

No, they’re not. But I’m wondering what difference it makes to you?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

So what do you expect in that news report that isn't there?

 

[The.Truth.]

You didn't answer my question. You feel that CNN, MSNBC etc etc would've covered this exactly the same? You feel for instance Don Lemon would've covered this exactly the same if the victim had been Black?

Whatever you may "feel" about this, you can't prove a point by asking about how someone might feel about a hypothetical situation.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

Whatever you may "feel" about this, you can't prove a point by asking about how someone might feel about a hypothetical situation.

You can clarify a perspective which explains a divergence. Surely?

 

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There have been plenty of stories recently about police brutality against white people lately. Right off the top of my head there’s the cop who is shown punching an autistic teen in the face, the story of the officer breaking that 73 yo womans arm who suffered from dementia after radioing that she was restrained then got caught high fiving about it on a security camera as he reviewed it. They also left her in a cell without treatment for hours. The officer who wasn’t disciplined even after he was caught on camera physically abusing his dog partner. Now none of these had a murder trial so there stories didn’t have as many reports but it’s not like people don’t care or aren’t worried about it

 

[Deleted member 28251]

There have been plenty of stories recently about police brutality against white people lately. Right off the top of my head there’s the cop who is shown punching an autistic teen in the face, the story of the officer breaking that 73 yo womans arm who suffered from dementia after radioing that she was restrained then got caught high fiving about it on a security camera as he reviewed it. They also left her in a cell without treatment for hours. The officer who wasn’t disciplined even after he was caught on camera physically abusing his dog partner. Now none of these had a murder trial so there stories didn’t have as many reports but it’s not like people don’t care or aren’t worried about it

Yes: I’m conscious of the recent story about the woman with dementia—which would’ve horrific enough without the revelation of the lady’s health condition.

 

[The.Truth.]

You can clarify a perspective which explains a divergence. Surely?

That's just a meaningless string of words.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

That's just a meaningless string of words.

I suspect that has something to do with the eye of the beholder.

 

[The.Truth.]

I suspect that has something to do with the eye of the beholder.

A perspective can explain a divergence? And a perspective can be "clarified" better you feel, not by something so simple as saying what you really mean, but instead by attempting to prove your point with a hypothetical supposition?
Your argument that convicting a murderer for the crime of murder somehow makes the problem worse leads me to believe that you might think these sorts of tactics work, but they really don't hold up to analysis.

The only perspective being clarified here is the one of the person who thinks up the hypothetical question. We find repeated references to a black journalist raising objection to the killings of black people by the police, and somehow the apparent unfairness of this is raised as an issue that is larger than that of the deaths of these black people.
So, while that does make the perspective quite clarified, it doesn't explain any divergence. It just gives a quick glimpse into the mind of the person who posed these questions.

 

[Vegan Cro Spirit .777]

A perspective can explain a divergence? And a perspective can be "clarified" better you feel, not by something so simple as saying what you really mean, but instead by attempting to prove your point with a hypothetical supposition?
Your argument that convicting a murderer for the crime of murder somehow makes the problem worse leads me to believe that you might think these sorts of tactics work, but they really don't hold up to analysis.

The only perspective being clarified here is the one of the person who thinks up the hypothetical question. We find repeated references to a black journalist raising objection to the killings of black people by the police, and somehow the apparent unfairness of this is raised as an issue that is larger than that of the deaths of these black people.
So, while that does make the perspective quite clarified, it doesn't explain any divergence. It just gives a quick glimpse into the mind of the person who posed these questions.

a perspective may not be clarified, but as FC shows above, it can be muddled
wtf does this all mean?

 

[Deleted member 28251]

A perspective can explain a divergence? And a perspective can be "clarified" better you feel, not by something so simple as saying what you really mean, but instead by attempting to prove your point with a hypothetical supposition?
Your argument that convicting a murderer for the crime of murder somehow makes the problem worse leads me to believe that you might think these sorts of tactics work, but they really don't hold up to analysis.

The only perspective being clarified here is the one of the person who thinks up the hypothetical question. We find repeated references to a black journalist raising objection to the killings of black people by the police, and somehow the apparent unfairness of this is raised as an issue that is larger than that of the deaths of these black people.
So, while that does make the perspective quite clarified, it doesn't explain any divergence. It just gives a quick glimpse into the mind of the person who posed these questions.

Such contests are fine in principle but to pretend you’re adopting some ‘pure’ level of discernment looks, to me, like the most problematic level of self-denial possible.

You just do what Vegan Cro does, without his sense of humour and emojis.

And to do it in the context of Morrissey (an artist who obviously privileges the heart over the head) represents a further problematic layer which makes your Socratic posturing seem slightly smug and pompous rather than rational.

I always thought your moniker ‘The Truth’ was wilfully self-effacing and hilarious. But that’s not nearly as funny as what I’m starting to think about it now.