BookishBoy
Well-Known Member
Number thirteen in the Morrissey A-Z is this song, from the deluxe edition of WPINOYB. What do we think?
(And: does anyone on here actually have a fat aunt Mabel? Because that would be kind of cool.)
very good of you to tell us what we should like and what we should not like,think we can make our minds up.if your going to say something like this at least say in my opinion.It's ok, it's nowhere near as good as everyone else thinks it is.
in my opinion, art hounds is an overrated song and not as good as what other posters in this thread think it is.very good of you to tell us what we should like and what we should not like,think we can make our minds up.if your going to say something like this at least say in my opinion.
Nah, this is actively why I dislike this song. I hate it when the final part of the song takes a seemingly unrelated turn lyricially and has no real correspondence with the rest of the text. It's the lyrical version of fading a song out because you can't come up with an ending. See also the ghetto coda from Ganglord, it just strikes me as lazy songwriting and quite jarring. Squeezing My Skull NEARLY suffers from it, but I give it a pass because I don't mind the song as a whole.And
If you cannot stand this fake world
Take my hand
...which would sound trite if anyone else were to sing it but expresses one of the main reasons people turn to Morrissey's music.
I don't think it's unrelated to the rest of the song. The beginning describes the fake world he's referring to, the art-hounds are part of it and make it unbearable. He's offering those who aren't like them a different perspective.Nah, this is actively why I dislike this song. I hate it when the final part of the song takes a seemingly unrelated turn lyricially and has no real correspondence with the rest of the text. It's the lyrical version of fading a song out because you can't come up with an ending. See also the ghetto coda from Ganglord, it just strikes me as lazy songwriting and quite jarring. Squeezing My Skull NEARLY suffers from it, but I give it a pass because I don't mind the song as a whole.
Can I just stress that this is my opinion, in case gordy has a cry again? Thank you.
I think what I am trying to say it's just a lazy, jarring fall back. A well that Morrissey visits very often that is too literal and on the nose. It means something so obvious that it doesn't mean anything.I don't think it's unrelated to the rest of the song. The beginning describes the fake world he's referring to, the art-hounds are part of it and make it unbearable. He's offering those who aren't like them a different perspective.
One could argue that the 16 pills part is kind of unrelated to the rest though.
It's not that uncommon in his lyrics and I think it's a result of his writing process, which is basically starting with the melody and singing words that sound good rather than writing an elaborate draft.
Oh god, totally agree about "mainstream media" but for whatever reason this doesn't grate with me in the same way.Woof, I don't have a single nice thing to say about this one. It's emblematic of a lot of what I dislike about modern Moz compositions: overproduced, melodically devoid and lyrics begging for even a shred of ambiguity. Hearing him go on about "this fake world" is as bad as hearing him croon the words "mainstream media."
Because it's not the same. "Fake world" in this case doesn't refer to the world in general or to the media or whatever but to the illusion that critics matter.Oh god, totally agree about "mainstream media" but for whatever reason this doesn't grate with me in the same way.
Woof, I don't have a single nice thing to say about this one. It's emblematic of a lot of what I dislike about modern Moz compositions: overproduced, melodically devoid and lyrics begging for even a shred of ambiguity. Hearing him go on about "this fake world" is as bad as hearing him croon the words "mainstream media."