NME: "Does Rock ‘N’ Roll Kill Braincells?! - Boy George" - Morrissey mentions (November 20, 2020)

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Does Rock ‘N’ Roll Kill Braincells?! – Boy George

In Does Rock ‘N’ Roll Kill Braincells?!, we quiz a grizzled artist on their own career to see how much they can remember – and find out if the booze, loud music and/or tour sweeties has knocked the knowledge out of them. This week: Boy George.

...(relevant parts quoted only)...

Anyone who slagged you off that you had a laugh about it with later?

“I had tea with Morrissey in Paris in the early ‘80s and he called me ‘overbearing’.
At the time, I didn’t find it funny – now I do. I still love Morrissey and The Smiths even though I don’t love what he’s saying at the moment, but I put that into grumpy old man category. I saw him again years later and he was very sweet to me because I’d written something about how ‘Maladjusted’, one of his most critically-derided albums, is actually one of his best. He looked at me, raised an eyebrow and went: ‘’Maladjusted‘?’ (Laughs) I’m there quoting him lyrics trying to convince him it’s a f***ing great album!”



Bonus question! For a half-point: In 1985, Smash Hits readers voted you Prat of the Year. Name anyone else in the Top 10.
“Was Holly Johnson in it?”

CORRECT. Frankie Goes To Hollywood are at Number Eight – frontman Holly Johnson is also Number 12.

(Laughs) She’s going to kill me! Was George Michael in it as well?”

Yes – he’s second! The others are: Black Lace (3), Simon Le Bon from Duran Duran (4) Neil from The Young Ones (5), National Union of Mineworkers president Arthur Scargill (6), DJ Mike Read (7), Divine (9) and Morrissey (10).

“I’m in fabulous company! Divine and Morrissey alone fills me with joy. I’ve got a Divine tattoo on my arm. Before I was famous, I was on the King’s Road with Marilyn and we spotted Divine – in her civvies – and ran after her, gushing: ‘We love you!’. She was so sweet – and completely stoned! She did a concert at Heaven where she said onstage: ‘I need to get myself a new Rolls-Royce – so I can drive it over Boy George!’ (Laughs) I loved someone I admired mentioning me. It was a shame that when I became famous, she never knew what a massive influence she was in my life as a teenager.”

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Regards,
FWD.
 

Silent Reader

On Timeout
It’s just that in the studio the presenters tended to stand in the vicinity of the stage, introduce the band, and then direct the camera towards the latter. You couldn’t do that with a recording. Or had ToTPs changed by ‘97? I was long over watching by then.
That’s true, I’m not sure, maybe they did do that & the TOTP2 version was a slight edit with that bit missing off.

I may be wrong, this is just my opinion of why it was recorded/never shown at the time.
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
The filming of live/mimed/inserts/videos of a band's pre-chart release appears to be simply a logistical consideration and was done if the band were likely to be flitting around/unavailable prior. Given the show couldn't know the charting of a new release, pre-recording made sense and became usual practice in a lot of cases (even during the 'live' era) - as too: some songs not doing as well as expected and getting nixed.
The BBC's history of being very free and easy with budgets to do this sort of thing - only to ultimately not use it is a thing of the past thankfully.
Here are some examples via one observant TV forum contributor:

18/06/1987 David Bowie - Time Will Crawl
04/02/1990 Belinda Carlisle - Runaway Horses
04/02/1990 Liza Minnelli - Love Pains
26/07/1990 Sinead O'Connor - The Emperor's New Clothes
26/07/1990 En Vogue - Lies
02/08/1990 Phil Collins - That's Just The Way It Is
02/08/1990 Dave Stewart & The Spiritual Cowboys - Jack Talking
19/01/1991 Tom Jones - I Couldn't Say Goodbye
03/07/1991 The Twins - All Mixed Up
12/09/1991 OMD - Then You Turn Away
16/06/1994 Ace Of Base - Don't Turn Around (from Cue Club, Gothenburg)
21/08/1997 Marilyn Manson - Tourniquet
04/09/1997 Morrissey - Roy's Keen
25/09/1997 Green Day - Hitchin' A Ride
25/09/1997 No Doubt - Sunday Morning
02/10/1997 Meredith Brooks - I Need
16/10/1997 Echo & The Bunnymen - Don't Let It Get You Down
30/10/1997 The Sundays - Cry
13/11/1997 Jewel - You Were Meant For Me
20/11/1997 The Lightning Seeds - What You Say
15/12/1997 Olive - You're Not Alone (for Christmas show)
05/03/1998 The Divine Comedy - I've Been To A Marvellous Party
26/03/1998 Page & Plant - Crossroads / House Of Love
26/03/1998 Shola Ama - Someday I'll Find You
23/04/1998 Aqua - Turn Back Time (second performance)
30/04/1998 Lenny Kravitz - If You Can't Say No / I Belong To You
07/05/1998 Cornershop - Sleep On The Left Side
07/05/1998 LeAnn Rimes - Commitment
28/05/1998 Lionel Richie - Say You Love Me
24/07/1998 Xscape - The Arms Of Who Loves You
20/08/1998 Morcheeba - Part Of The Process
10/09/1998 Cypress Hill - Tequila Sunrise
XX/12/1999 Cuban Boys - Cognoscenti vs Intelligentsia
XX/12/2001 Hermes House Band - Country Roads (shown in rundown - possibly from TOTP Germany)
... Et al ...

Regards,
FWD.
 
M

Mandingo

Guest
The filming of live/mimed/inserts/videos of a band's pre-chart release appears to be simply a logistical consideration and was done if the band were likely to be flitting around/unavailable prior. Given the show couldn't know the charting of a new release, pre-recording made sense and became usual practice in a lot of cases (even during the 'live' era) - as too: some songs not doing as well as expected and getting nixed.
The BBC's history of being very free and easy with budgets to do this sort of thing - only to ultimately not use it is a thing of the past thankfully.
Here are some examples via one observant TV forum contributor:

18/06/1987 David Bowie - Time Will Crawl
04/02/1990 Belinda Carlisle - Runaway Horses
04/02/1990 Liza Minnelli - Love Pains
26/07/1990 Sinead O'Connor - The Emperor's New Clothes
26/07/1990 En Vogue - Lies
02/08/1990 Phil Collins - That's Just The Way It Is
02/08/1990 Dave Stewart & The Spiritual Cowboys - Jack Talking
19/01/1991 Tom Jones - I Couldn't Say Goodbye
03/07/1991 The Twins - All Mixed Up
12/09/1991 OMD - Then You Turn Away
16/06/1994 Ace Of Base - Don't Turn Around (from Cue Club, Gothenburg)
21/08/1997 Marilyn Manson - Tourniquet
04/09/1997 Morrissey - Roy's Keen
25/09/1997 Green Day - Hitchin' A Ride
25/09/1997 No Doubt - Sunday Morning
02/10/1997 Meredith Brooks - I Need
16/10/1997 Echo & The Bunnymen - Don't Let It Get You Down
30/10/1997 The Sundays - Cry
13/11/1997 Jewel - You Were Meant For Me
20/11/1997 The Lightning Seeds - What You Say
15/12/1997 Olive - You're Not Alone (for Christmas show)
05/03/1998 The Divine Comedy - I've Been To A Marvellous Party
26/03/1998 Page & Plant - Crossroads / House Of Love
26/03/1998 Shola Ama - Someday I'll Find You
23/04/1998 Aqua - Turn Back Time (second performance)
30/04/1998 Lenny Kravitz - If You Can't Say No / I Belong To You
07/05/1998 Cornershop - Sleep On The Left Side
07/05/1998 LeAnn Rimes - Commitment
28/05/1998 Lionel Richie - Say You Love Me
24/07/1998 Xscape - The Arms Of Who Loves You
20/08/1998 Morcheeba - Part Of The Process
10/09/1998 Cypress Hill - Tequila Sunrise
XX/12/1999 Cuban Boys - Cognoscenti vs Intelligentsia
XX/12/2001 Hermes House Band - Country Roads (shown in rundown - possibly from TOTP Germany)
... Et al ...

Regards,
FWD.
Thanks FWD, interesting that it was common practice but not now. Some performances I'd like to see from that list 👍
 

Hovis Lesley

Well-Known Member
The filming of live/mimed/inserts/videos of a band's pre-chart release appears to be simply a logistical consideration and was done if the band were likely to be flitting around/unavailable prior. Given the show couldn't know the charting of a new release, pre-recording made sense and became usual practice in a lot of cases (even during the 'live' era) - as too: some songs not doing as well as expected and getting nixed.
The BBC's history of being very free and easy with budgets to do this sort of thing - only to ultimately not use it is a thing of the past thankfully.
Here are some examples via one observant TV forum contributor:

18/06/1987 David Bowie - Time Will Crawl
04/02/1990 Belinda Carlisle - Runaway Horses
04/02/1990 Liza Minnelli - Love Pains
26/07/1990 Sinead O'Connor - The Emperor's New Clothes
26/07/1990 En Vogue - Lies
02/08/1990 Phil Collins - That's Just The Way It Is
02/08/1990 Dave Stewart & The Spiritual Cowboys - Jack Talking
19/01/1991 Tom Jones - I Couldn't Say Goodbye
03/07/1991 The Twins - All Mixed Up
12/09/1991 OMD - Then You Turn Away
16/06/1994 Ace Of Base - Don't Turn Around (from Cue Club, Gothenburg)
21/08/1997 Marilyn Manson - Tourniquet
04/09/1997 Morrissey - Roy's Keen
25/09/1997 Green Day - Hitchin' A Ride
25/09/1997 No Doubt - Sunday Morning
02/10/1997 Meredith Brooks - I Need
16/10/1997 Echo & The Bunnymen - Don't Let It Get You Down
30/10/1997 The Sundays - Cry
13/11/1997 Jewel - You Were Meant For Me
20/11/1997 The Lightning Seeds - What You Say
15/12/1997 Olive - You're Not Alone (for Christmas show)
05/03/1998 The Divine Comedy - I've Been To A Marvellous Party
26/03/1998 Page & Plant - Crossroads / House Of Love
26/03/1998 Shola Ama - Someday I'll Find You
23/04/1998 Aqua - Turn Back Time (second performance)
30/04/1998 Lenny Kravitz - If You Can't Say No / I Belong To You
07/05/1998 Cornershop - Sleep On The Left Side
07/05/1998 LeAnn Rimes - Commitment
28/05/1998 Lionel Richie - Say You Love Me
24/07/1998 Xscape - The Arms Of Who Loves You
20/08/1998 Morcheeba - Part Of The Process
10/09/1998 Cypress Hill - Tequila Sunrise
XX/12/1999 Cuban Boys - Cognoscenti vs Intelligentsia
XX/12/2001 Hermes House Band - Country Roads (shown in rundown - possibly from TOTP Germany)
... Et al ...

Regards,
FWD.
Was that from memory?
 

Nerak

Reverse Ferret
Morrissey mentioned his sister & mother being vegetarian & said he started avoiding family events in the 70s to avoid meat smells. He didn't say if his Dad was still a carnivore.

Anyone know?
 

GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn

Well-Known Member
Morrissey mentioned his sister & mother being vegetarian & said he started avoiding family events in the 70s to avoid meat smells. He didn't say if his Dad was still a carnivore.

Anyone know?
Since he always explicitly mentioned his mother (rather than "parents") being vegetarian I always assumed that Peter wasn't. But I don't recall it ever being clarified.
 
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Anonymous

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He released a digital single 10 days ago.

The chances of getting "new" material while 4/5 of his band are stuck on another continent and he has no record label are obviously very small.

My hope is that I'll actually get to use my Paris ticket at some point in the next 12 months.
How is distance a factor, when Morrissey doesn’t write any of the music? He’s always let the band do their thing and then popped by to phone in his vocal tracks. This can be easily done without ever appearing in the same room.
 

GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn

Well-Known Member
How is distance a factor, when Morrissey doesn’t write any of the music? He’s always let the band do their thing and then popped by to phone in his vocal tracks. This can be easily done without ever appearing in the same room.
It could theoretically but it won't.
 

Surface

Vegan Cro’s parents regret the condom splitting
How is distance a factor, when Morrissey doesn’t write any of the music? He’s always let the band do their thing and then popped by to phone in his vocal tracks. This can be easily done without ever appearing in the same room.

Anything is possible if he applies some though to it. Peter Hook is releasing stuff like this every week.

 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
Morrissey recording vocals/sessions in the same place as the band for the last few albums would tend to indicate he prefers being in the same geographical location as everyone when recording and doesn't stay elsewhere and phone it in.
So, proximity appears to have some bearing on recording - to Morrissey himself.
FWD.
 

GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn

Well-Known Member
Morrissey recording vocals/sessions in the same place as the band for the last few albums would tend to indicate he prefers being in the same geographical location as everyone when recording and doesn't stay elsewhere and phone it in.
So, proximity appears to have some bearing on recording - to Morrissey himself.
FWD.
Exactly.

And the musical director also not being in the same place as the rest of the band makes it even less likely that anything will be recorded.
 

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