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Fox in the Snow
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> Wait, this thread has me f***ing confused, dude.
I just wanted to start a discussion about Moz circa 2002 irrelevance in comparison with other bards, intellectual literary singers-songwriters like Lou Reed, Tom Waits, Ani DiFranco, Tori Amos, Elliot Smith... Lou Reed was just an RANDOM example to verify my thesis, I just took 3 of his random live song-rants, recorded at Kansas City, NYC club around 1977 (Take NO Prisoners CD):
one about artist versus modern society (Walk on the Wild Side live),
another about racism of whites & white guilt (I wonna be Black),
another one about gay man falling in love with a straight guy, whrer Lou Reed openly talks about his it. (Coney Island Babe)
And Lou Reed circa 1977 sounds FOR ME way more contemporary and relevant to me then Moz circa 2002!
> Well, Morrissey out there promoting PETA, playing "Meat Is
> Murder," and calling for boycotts of Elephant abusing countries.
Exactly my point!!!
While really relevant and up-to-day artists like Ani DiFranco, Elliot Smith, Eminem, even Lou Reed circa 2000 (Exstacy album) et cetera et cetera are dealing with real economic and political, moral and philosophycal issues of the day, Mozzer is worrying about 'lil kitties and doggies... C'mon, PETA is just another nauseatingly Politically Correct white affluent eco-liberal guilt trip... As I said before, Moz is worried about elephants, but what about thousands Thais, who would become unemployed if world would take for its face value Mozzer cry to "boycott" Thai tourist industry... Luckily, Mozzer activism is no different from elephant farting in the wind, just another liberal caring about Thai animals, indifferent to the plight of Thai exploited children and Thai AIDS victims or Cambodgian refugees, or Russian victims of Chechen terrorism etc... OK, Moz song Mexico is VAGUELY political, but I'm telling you, bands like MANA or JAGUARES are zillion times more relevant and up-to-date for Mexican politically-minded listener... But again, Moz is primary a lyrical artist, an escapist... Yet, his LATEST body of work is beautiful, yet strangely politically irrelevant... Yes, I'm glad he is around, yet... His silence about any political issue of the day, except animal-rights, be it war or peace or gay rights, or women issues, that silence make Moz, essentially, a nostalgic act, something like Wayne Newton... Well, Moz even played Las Vegas recently... :-(
P.S. To all peoples (especially Suzanne), who think Lou Reed circa 2002 is a drug-abuse-riddled nutcase... nothing could be further from the truth! For somebody who cares, please give a try to 2 last brilliant solo Lou Reed albums: Set The Twilight Reeling (1994) and Exstacy (2000). Just listen to the lyrics and lively, country & alternative-twang bare-bones r'and'b sound of Lou guitar, and then judge old chap Lou... Don't dismiss peoples you don't know a shit abut!
I just wanted to start a discussion about Moz circa 2002 irrelevance in comparison with other bards, intellectual literary singers-songwriters like Lou Reed, Tom Waits, Ani DiFranco, Tori Amos, Elliot Smith... Lou Reed was just an RANDOM example to verify my thesis, I just took 3 of his random live song-rants, recorded at Kansas City, NYC club around 1977 (Take NO Prisoners CD):
one about artist versus modern society (Walk on the Wild Side live),
another about racism of whites & white guilt (I wonna be Black),
another one about gay man falling in love with a straight guy, whrer Lou Reed openly talks about his it. (Coney Island Babe)
And Lou Reed circa 1977 sounds FOR ME way more contemporary and relevant to me then Moz circa 2002!
> Well, Morrissey out there promoting PETA, playing "Meat Is
> Murder," and calling for boycotts of Elephant abusing countries.
Exactly my point!!!
While really relevant and up-to-day artists like Ani DiFranco, Elliot Smith, Eminem, even Lou Reed circa 2000 (Exstacy album) et cetera et cetera are dealing with real economic and political, moral and philosophycal issues of the day, Mozzer is worrying about 'lil kitties and doggies... C'mon, PETA is just another nauseatingly Politically Correct white affluent eco-liberal guilt trip... As I said before, Moz is worried about elephants, but what about thousands Thais, who would become unemployed if world would take for its face value Mozzer cry to "boycott" Thai tourist industry... Luckily, Mozzer activism is no different from elephant farting in the wind, just another liberal caring about Thai animals, indifferent to the plight of Thai exploited children and Thai AIDS victims or Cambodgian refugees, or Russian victims of Chechen terrorism etc... OK, Moz song Mexico is VAGUELY political, but I'm telling you, bands like MANA or JAGUARES are zillion times more relevant and up-to-date for Mexican politically-minded listener... But again, Moz is primary a lyrical artist, an escapist... Yet, his LATEST body of work is beautiful, yet strangely politically irrelevant... Yes, I'm glad he is around, yet... His silence about any political issue of the day, except animal-rights, be it war or peace or gay rights, or women issues, that silence make Moz, essentially, a nostalgic act, something like Wayne Newton... Well, Moz even played Las Vegas recently... :-(
P.S. To all peoples (especially Suzanne), who think Lou Reed circa 2002 is a drug-abuse-riddled nutcase... nothing could be further from the truth! For somebody who cares, please give a try to 2 last brilliant solo Lou Reed albums: Set The Twilight Reeling (1994) and Exstacy (2000). Just listen to the lyrics and lively, country & alternative-twang bare-bones r'and'b sound of Lou guitar, and then judge old chap Lou... Don't dismiss peoples you don't know a shit abut!