The Simpsons - "Panic on the Streets of Springfield" (airing April 18, 2021) - reminder / reports

UPDATE Apr. 18:

Posted after the airing:

Official Morrissey Facebook: Simpsons Response (April 19, 2021)


The Simpsons ("Panic on the Streets of Springfield" season 32, episode 19) premieres Sunday April 18, 2021.


An extended cut to air on Hulu (link posted by Neal Cassidy):




UPDATE Apr. 18:





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anorakcity

18 years old and already given up on life!
eh c'mon guys, do not take this so seriously. i mean, we are morrissey fans we should be used to this hahahaha
 

Barking

Well-Known Member
I too love "Everyone is horrid except me (and possibly you)". I love how Lisa keeps smiling when Quillo sings "I fear you aaaare tooooo!" :lbf: She's so sweet!

I'm going to listen to it every morning for about a year.
If I ever tire of it (unlikely), maybe we could have a mash-up with Sting's "It's probably me" (since he is mentioned in the episode).

I hate to say it...hate to say it but it's
Possibly meeee

Or a duet with Horrid Henry. (Well Google him, Catsoup, you dunce!)
(Yes I'd also like to see M in Family Guy.)
 

Anaesthesine

Angel of Distemper
I thought the writers and animators did a great job with their silly, affectionate pastiche of Smiths-era Morrissey (right down to the wardrobe choices). Sure, they missed the fact that Smiths-era Morrissey was a complex, often contradictory and deeply funny character, but this is a 22-minute cartoon, not a documentary.

Old Morrissey was a bit harsh (but not nearly as cruel as it could have been).

Biggest objection: that sausage gun was a bit over-the-top.

Biggest laugh: "Refugees? Again?"
 

joe frady

Vile Refusenik
From Mark Smith {no E please} of "The {Glasgow} Herald". One of wur ain...

From "Is my tea towel racist?" onward, í agree with every word of this ~

https://outline.com/5FGxny

In sum ~ "For personal reasons. Loyalty. Contrariness. Bloody-mindedness. And love of what he meant, and means. Glasgow Barrowlands. February 3, 1995. Morrissey on stage Me in the front row. He is not the man he was then. And neither am I. And that’s fine."

And í was in the Barras too, on that sweaty-toothed February evening.
Although not in the front row.
í was far too delicate then.
Not now.

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GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn

The Courage to Get on People's Tits
From Mark Smith {no E please} of "The {Glasgow} Herald". One of wur ain...

From "Is my tea towel racist?" onward, í agree with every word of this ~

https://outline.com/5FGxny

This is so good. Tear-worthily good.

Especially the part about how everything seems to lack nuance these days.

'But I must side with Morrissey. For personal reasons.' ❤
 

BookishBoy

Well-Known Member
From Mark Smith {no E please} of "The {Glasgow} Herald". One of wur ain...

From "Is my tea towel racist?" onward, í agree with every word of this ~

https://outline.com/5FGxny

In sum ~ "For personal reasons. Loyalty. Contrariness. Bloody-mindedness. And love of what he meant, and means. Glasgow Barrowlands. February 3, 1995. Morrissey on stage Me in the front row. He is not the man he was then. And neither am I. And that’s fine."

And í was in the Barras too, on that sweaty-toothed February evening.
Although not in the front row.
í was far too delicate then.
Not now.

.
That's such a lovely, humane, wise piece of writing - thanks for sharing it.
 

joe frady

Vile Refusenik
Provided in full, for any non-'Glasgow Herald' Premium users.
Or any lazy-ass non-clickers ~

Mark Smith: Moz versus The Simpsons? I'm with Morrissey​

~ by Mark Smith

"IS my tea towel racist? It is blue and white and has a picture of Morrissey on it and the words “to dry by your side is a heavenly way to dry”. Yes, I know: the joke’s a bit lame, but it amused me when I spotted it in a shop, and I dry my cups and plates with it, and I think it’s quite funny really.


But I ask again: is the tea towel racist? A friend of mine spotted it when he was visiting me and asked if it was okay to have Morrissey memorabilia. Isn’t he racist? And if you’re drying the dishes with his image, doesn’t that make you racist too? It sounds silly but I know people who’ve got rid of their Morrissey LPs or deleted him from their playlists. Morrissey has controversial opinions, therefore they must never listen to his music again.


My view is: sod that, I love the music (in the words of Morrissey, it affects me in a strong and beautiful way). But if I can, I’d like to understand how the fans who’ve fallen out of love with him feel. What they seem to be saying is they stopped loving Moz when he (apparently) stopped having reassuringly left-wing opinions. This certainly seems to be the view of the people who write The Simpsons. You may have seen the fuss over the episode that features a Morrissey-esque character who starts out as a cool, vegan waif but morphs into a racist, burger-munching fatty.


Morrissey himself was not amused. There is a “victimisation that automatically associates with my name,” he said, “on which The Simpsons’ latest episode feasts.” British journalists are also “suicidally anguished because they cannot urge the people around me to drum up tell-tale incidents of racism”. It’s typically Moz isn’t it? Dramatic, brittle, anguished, angry: most of his sentences just need a guitar and drums to be turned into lyrics.


But whose side to take? I love Morrissey. I love The Simpsons. But neither is perfect or straightforward. If you listened to Morrissey’s Margaret on a Guillotine about the imagined execution of Thatcher, did you not also listen to Bengali in Platforms on the same album? “Shelve your Western plans/And understand/That life is hard enough when you belong here.” Both deal with controversial subjects, but he’s writing about what he’s always written about: working class boys, boys who love other boys, and animals on the way to the slaughterhouse. He’s being hateful and loving at the same time, but then most of us are.


As for The Simpsons, isn’t it a bit rich for them to accuse anyone of being racist? The Indian character Apu was voiced by a white man doing a silly voice. And Groundskeeper Willie, with his shoogly eyes, ranty opinions, and bird’s-nest beard, is a grotesque stereotype of Scottish people (apart from my Uncle William to be fair). My point being: judgement works two ways, so take care how you judge.


Perhaps the other problem here is that we seem to need our heroes – musical, political, poetical – to be either good or bad, hero or villain, us or them (and ideally to stay young forever). It might also help if we avoided the sledgehammer vocabulary that’s used to impose the judgements. The Simpsons’ portrayal of the older Morrissey with his belly hanging out was obviously meant to suggest “gammon” (old white person with reactionary views) but the way the word gammon focuses on skin colour and age is discomfiting and crude.


There are many other words that have the same problem: “woke”, “transphobic” and sometimes “racist” too. If used indiscriminately (which they often are), they reduce a complicated argument (and the nuanced lyrics of the former leader singer of The Smiths) to crude labels, which in turn provoke even cruder ones. Call me gammon and I will call you woke. Call me racist and I will call you racist too.


In the end, this is pretty much what The Simpsons versus Morrissey is all about: label versus label with the subtleties lost somewhere in the middle. But I must side with Morrissey. For personal reasons. Loyalty. Contrariness. Bloody-mindedness. And love of what he meant, and means. Glasgow Barrowlands. February 3, 1995. Morrissey on stage. Me in the front row. He is not the man he was then. And neither am I. And that’s fine.
"

:sweet:

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Barking

Well-Known Member
He’s being hateful and loving at the same time
Well. So are the writers behind that Simpsons episode. From a distance.
And yes, they just make an animated sitcom . Just like people just draw caricatures. Just like people just write songs. All these creations have a purpose. Make people laugh, think, feel, spend money on albums. And all of these may be inspired by real people, but they will never be real people, and thank God not all real people decide to sue or shoot the people responsible because if they did, Morrissey would be in a spot of bother.


Btw, I haven't watched all the episodes, but I never felt there was any racism in the Simpsons precisely because every character is an exxageration.
After all, babies could sue the Simpsons because Maggie STILL has a pacifier and they feel babies are oppressed and babies' freedom of speech is impeded! (and unlike Morrissey, they might have a case...)
 

GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn

The Courage to Get on People's Tits
The battle for freedom of speech is fought with ANIMOTO...


 
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Vulgarian
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After 8 days, the 'Simpsons Celebrate The Snuffs' page over on Central was removed April 25, 2021.
This update will appear in related threads.
Regards,
FWD.
 

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